Trump, Pelosi, Schumer spar on border wall in Oval Office

That is what I am talking about. The total cost is 25 billion dollars, 5 billion at a time. That much money can buy a lot of border security without a wall.

 

Odd that an idiot has outperformed the last Democrat POTUS in every military and economic way.

You remind me of the kid that gets his butt kicked and later tells his friends that the guy that kicked his butt is a sissy.

 

The wall is a lot cheaper than not having a wall.

What else do you want to know?

 

Amazing how many people don't understand basic civics.

 

So by your standards, Illegal immigration doesn't cost the government anything. You can manufacture your little charts and numbers all day long but honestly, Thats about the most dumbest thing I have read on these forums yet. You conveniently left out the legal immigrants losing work and other Americans as well over Illegal immigration.

I guess those government checks, insurance, medical, schooling, and job losses to others are all offset by the 2 or 3 dollars more they would have to pay legal labor. Nice try.

 

Stupid people believe stupid lies so good on you

 

Ignorance is bliss. Your a very happy fellar.

 

It certainly appears that way.

 

Yeah.

That affliction seems to be endemic among RW Trump Supporters.

Earlier today, one of Trump's RW Echo Chamber was claiming that Pence could vote in the Senate to get the 60 votes to end debate.

Oh well, Trump's Supporters seem to be hideously misinformed on many topics.

For example--Pelosi owned Trump like a Punk in Prison, and the RW is deluding themselves into thinking that Trump didn't get his head handed to him.

Trump got OWNED. That is a FACT.

 

You need to build a wall to cover parts and force illegals to select crossings. It makes the border easier to defend and monitor.

 

The only reason you and the rest of the Chief Deplorable support team are making a big deal of this is that yesterday Pelosi politely handed Trump is azz and you just can't stand it, so it MUST be spun and distorted by that team.

 

Pelosi seemed aloof and caught off guard.

Trump beat her like a baby seal.

 

Yeah, That whole (lets talk about this on private) comment over and over was just my imagination. Democrats don't like the light shown on them with a conservative in the mix because they get caught in so many lies. Example, I would have asked Pelosi how come she was all for a border wall just 5 years ago for 700 miles of the border but now its a waste of money and it won't work. Delusional, Hypocritical, and (lets talk behind the scenes) Democrats.

 

Exactly.

And that said, Nobody (repeat NOBODY) who possessed an IQ above double-digits thought there was going to be an Actual "Physical" Wall built (along the entire border).

 

One on welfare + one on welfare = 2 on welfare

Two on welfare begetting another one on welfare = 3 on welfare

 

It's a national security issue and can draw the money from the DOD Budget.

 

Over hill, over dale, as we hit the dusty trail, as the concrete pumps go rolling along.

 

No spin about it, just facts not a pretend as you engage in.

 

Our federal government is not a Democracy it is a union of STATES in a federal REPUBLIC. The STATES elect the President and VP not the people. That's not going change no matter how hard you pound sand. There has NEVER been a national vote on ANYTHING. We have no national elections. YOU have never voted in a national election. Candidates do not campaign to win a national popular vote they campaign to win states. Had we just one big national vote the campaigning and voting patterns would have been entirely different. You don't know what that outcome would have been.

You don't even have a constitutional right to vote for the electors of your state let alone the President and VP.

You do know what the Great Compromise was and why it came about? You did study that during your history/civics class? Or to do believe the old "we have the Electoral College because it was hard for people to get to polling places in the beginning" nonsense.

 

The whole idea is total folly and as you said statistical nonsense.

 

We'll see how it works out but we have places where it will work and stem the tide and make fewer places the border patrol has to do direct intervention. This is nothing but POLITICS by the Democrats else tell me what is different now than from 5 years ago when they supported more border fencing, ie wall.

 

Yeah if the Democrats refuse to negotiate and remain intractable on increasing border security including a wall in places where it will work bring on the shutdown and watch him take it to the people including those who support DACA and the Dems would rather not help those kids to prevent Trump from building more wall because he campaigned and won on it.

 

You may as well give it up. You're not going to convince me with such a distorted substitute for facts.

 

Feel free to tell yourself that

 

You can put your head in the sand to the facts if you so choose but I will still post rebuttals. Tell me why the Democrats supported more infrastructure, walls, fences in the past when Obama was President but not now when Trump is President?