Boy Scouts of America may file for bankruptcy

no I said exactly what I typed. Nothing more nothing less.

well now isn't 50 years ago.

So what cultures can grow in 50 years.

 

Well cultures growing isn't what this thread was about or anything about what I was posting about.

 

Yes. Once you conflate hetero and homo sexual preferences with underage attractipn it's much to easy for the ignorant to erroneously believe that homosexuality can be linked to Pedophilia (or the various sub terms)

I personally see the various philias as outside adult sexual pteferences.

 

I acknowledge that's your personal opinion. That just seems to be pretty far outside the science.

 

How so? It's a simple classification thing really.

As kids are not capable (or legally able) to partake in adult relationships, why would we use the same sexual classifications?

I mean, we have such classifications already (philias), why conflate them?

 

You were the one who brought up 50 years ago. It's not 50 years ago.

I still think the bankruptcy has more to do with the Mormon church stepping back.

 

Ummm, yah.

 

Isn't funny how right wingers object to returning money that properly belongs to the Iranians but are happy with giving away our money to Israel?

 

Homophobic statement made by another member of the far right.

The fact that forum right wingers fail to post any objection is proof of their homophobic bigotry.

 

Why do you agree with handing the gay-murdering iranians cash from our banks?

Its theirs, right?

Think about that while you boycott Chik fil et.

 

Your problem is his statements were statements of fact.

 

This is mission accomplished for the left. Boys can only join trans scouts moving forward

 

External forces destroyed the Boy Scouts. They didn't die from within.

 

excuses, excuses

If the BSA are as screwed up as you right wingers say, put the blame squarely on your fellow Republican who leads it.

 

we didn't. we gave them back THEIR money.

Why would I boycott chik fil et?

 

My personal opinion is painted with remembrances and sadness for the current state of affairs. I'm older than dirt but I still remember the scout law. I became Troop Leader but never achieved the deservedly admired level of Eagle Scout. God bless all that have. They carry that badge for a lifetime.

 

No you ran from your original claim and now are backtracking once again.

Keep on running from quoting it to back your BS claim up and we both know why you can't.

Not a complaint a reality and every time you run from backing your original claim up that scouts should accept gays based on their values yet you point to nothing in the scout code of conduct that ever make that claim about homosexuality.

And trustworthiness has absolutely zero to do with accepting homosexuals within boy scouts. Thanks for finally quoting it so I could expose your fake claim.

And another nail in your argument:

DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY: Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God.

Since all 3 major religions in this country consider homosexuality a sin it flies in the face of your ridiculous claim that refusing the accept homosexuals goes against scout teachings when its actually the opposite. But go ahead, deny this is part of scout teachings. Show us all the proud Eagle Scout you claim to be.

You really should learn to read more carefully. I never said homosexuals did not exist. I said they were excluded from boy scouts. Try actually reading what is posted to you.

Since I never said only sexual exclusion is part of scouts your fabrication is just that. And of course you ran away from the reality of why the boy scouts excluded girls being the core argument against hojmosexualis but that's no surprise.

Says the person who couldn't cite a single passage in any guidance rules of the boy scouts that would accept homosexuals yet claims they should be.

Try actually reading what you claimed. You said about accepting homosexuals within scouts:

It was the right move and I'm glad they went with it. They weren't being true to their values

Yet you cannot point to what specific values the scouts had that stated homosexuality would be included in those values while running away from the reality of why the boy scouts were the boy scouts and not the scouts.

Next time please think about your responses before you make them.

 

That doesn't change the reality that gay men molest boys at a far higher per capita rate and you would have to be a complete dullard not to consider that in a group that puts boys and men together exclusively. Please think before you post next time.

 

Exactly what I expected from you. No facts or backing yourself up, just memes.

I guess you don't want another repeat of that embarrassing discussion on Canadian law and pronouns for transgenders. That was quite the spectacle.

 

Embarrassing for you. Still haven't figured out the difference in a change in law and the actual law have you?

How many threads have you run from me now? The last 3 or 4?

You aren't worth more then a low effort meme.

 

And men molest children at a far higher than women. Men are also far more likely to commit crimes, go to jail, be violent, rape, steal, and even murder. I propose we ban all men from childcare positions, and possible all employment positions.

.... again, let me flip my script here. A far higher rate means nothing if it is very very small. If it was, .02%, but with gay men it is .1%, it means nothing. And even then, its the racist kind of thinking to judge and stereotype all individuals because of group statistics. Individual gay men are innocent of molestation until proven guilty, and that is how we should evaluate all candidates. Innocent until proven guilty.

 

So many wrong things that I don't even know where to start. Let's go with the ones that stick out the most.

Will do. For one, the BSA does not follow your bizarre and unsupported interpretation here. You claim that "Duty to God" can only mean (again, with no justification provided) adherence to a fundamentalist version of on of the three major world religions. The BSA does not teach that, and hasn't for at least the past few decades.

"Duty to God" in Scouting is nonsectarian and personal, for one thing. For another, I won't speak for Islam, but several denominations of Christianity are fine with homosexuality, and at least one of the three major branches of Judaism is as well. We'll get back to those here in just a moment.

All that is required to fulfill the "Duty to God" requirement in Scouting, according to the BSA, is the following:

Article IX. Policies, Section 1

Clause 1. The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath the member declares, "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law." The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe and the grateful acknowledgment of His favors and blessings are necessary to the best type of citizenship and are wholesome precepts in the education of the growing members. No matter what the religious faith of the members may be, this fundamental need of good citizenship should be kept before them. The Boy Scouts of America, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. Its policy is that the home and the organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention to religious life.

5. Special Consideration, §5.0.5.0 Religious Principles

From time to time, issues related to advancement call for an understanding of the position of the Boy Scouts of America on religious principles.

The Boy Scouts of America does not define what constitutes belief in God or practice of religion. Neither does the BSA require membership in a religious organization or association for membership in the movement. If a Scout does not belong to a religious organization or association, then his parent(s) or guardian(s) will be considered responsible for his religious training. All that is required is the acknowledgment of belief in God as stated in the Declaration of Religious Principle and the Scout Oath, and the ability to be reverent as stated in the Scout Law.

https://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Declaration_of_Religious_Principle

This declaration is broad enough that it includes Jainism and Buddhism, which don't have personal, theistic gods.

The BSA does, however, partner with religious organizations to offer Religious Emblems Programs. Rather than telling scouts what to believe when it comes to religion, that is kept personal, and if you want to receive some kind of recognition for the way you've paired your specific religious beliefs with Scouting, the BSA works with religious organizations to define the requirements for such recognition and offers awards that have been vetted by various religious organizations. You'll notice two big things here that fly in the face of your rusty "nail": 1) there's more recognized here than just the "three major religions" 2) many of these religious traditions support homosexuality and even perform same sex marriages. And, no, their inclusion is not new. Several of these orgs have had REPs since at least the 80s.

https://www.scouting.org/awards/religious-awards/chart/

I listed those specific values in my very first post in this thread. If you are going to troll, at least git gud.

 

And women commit the majority of domestic abuse.

Really, it would be safer for our kids if we let wolves raise them.

 

Women aren’t homophobic