Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    87.7% is quite good.
     
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    I have mixed emotions about punishing illegal immigrants for trying to find a job.
     
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    I look at it as taking a job away from legal residents and lowering the wage scale

    Plus these people bring their whole family here and mooch off our welfare system and other public institutions
     
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    You guys don’t beleive in welfare systems. Why should it matter to you ?
     
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    I think able-bodied Americans should work instead of mooching off the welfare system
     
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    A broken world created by your benevolent god.....starting to sound a little confusing. Rejecting children because of they don’t have the chosen birth right. Sound a little corrupt.
     
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    But these aren’t Americans....they can’t collect off federal systems if they aren’t legal. Illegals cannot get unimployment benefits., they don’t qualify for Medicare, Medicaid or SS. After that, it’s whatever local homeless shelters or soup kitchens that locals provide. You’re just making stuff up.
     
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    Then let’s get more dogs instead of walls that drug dealers don’t even care about. Walls bring infrasrture. With that comes roads and vehicles. Now you’ve just created easier access to drug dealers. The steel fence is deterred by a local hardware store.
     
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    Illegals get food stamps if the have a child in Ametica, frree education, free healthcare, and tax refunds

    But I was referring to American welfare bums who should be forced to accept jobs not the foreigners
     
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    I too prefer legal residents, but they may not be available or incompetent. The wage is the wage in business, no matter who is hired unless they work in the fields.
     
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    Wages are always affected by supply and demand

    Too many shoeless illegals chasing the available jobs drives down wages

    Liberals want government to manage everything as in setting min wages that are ignored by the shadow labor market, to subsidizing the income of Americans who do bother to take jobs

    Better to expell the illegal aliens and end welfare for able bodied Americans and we will see wages rise naturally
     
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    Wages are controlled by the union if there is one. If not you are correct and you pay qualified people or someone else will, no matter where they came from.
     
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    Unfortunately, the American welfare bums are lousy workers.
     
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    Wrong. Illegals only get the welfare their child is allotted if they are a birthright citizen. They still dont qualify themselves and get their own subsidies...
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    They have no experience working

    So there will be a period of adjustment for workers and employers alike
     
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    if the child gets section 8 housing and other benefits the money is given to the welfare mom not the infant
     
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    You want to reduce crime, start with the NRA.
     
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    And that means the whole family qualifies for benefits ? hardly...only through the child.
     
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    Its just extra money for the family they would not get in mexico or central America

    Most first generation illegals will work

    But if dumb old Uncle Sam wants to give them a little extra that can pay for more beer or cigarettes they will take it
     
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    The drug problem is from within. It’s not overwalls . The illegal immigration problem, is from within, not over walls. Trump and his despot simpletons want to blow money that should be spent within the country to combat the drug and illegals problem. That’s why Trump gets little support from informed people.....but he gets all he wants from you guys who don’t have a clue. .
     
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    Have you been in business? Most did work at one time and they are lazy and uninterested. Just want a place to hang their hat.
     
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    Do we have illegal drugs in this country? That aren't made in this country? You should know, the answer is YES. What other proof do you need?
    Common sense says if a barrier is in your way, you go through or around. Just like everyday life.

    Now, prove the wall will be successful. :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Exactly. and we have just as big a problem with prescription drugs which are made in this country. No effin wall is helping that,
    All drug addiction problems emulate from within.
     
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    You, sir, with all due respect, don't have an effin clue. You don't have any street smarts. You've never been around it.

    Do you know that it's against the law for government workers to ask welfare applicants if they are illegals? Of course you don't.

    Do you honesty think that people who broke the law to get into the country, then broke the law using stealing other's identities to work, will hesitate to fill out a welfare application? Hell no, they do it all the time.

    Day before yesterday I was behind a lard ass illegal at the grocery store. $85 worth of food, then pulled out her food stamp debit card. SNAP is intended as 'supplemental nutrition'. When you're 260 damn pounds, I think you've been supplemented enough.

    One time a few years ago, I watched some fat illegals buy over a $150 worth of food, then proceeded to walk out to their Hummer. I took down the plate, ran it, found the owner of record and called to report the fraud. The, uh, minority answering the call said "how do you know they owned the car?", I said, okay, just send me a list of people using food stamps in my county. Of course they won't do that, because illegals are protected by privacy laws. So once they apply, you really have no way of preventing nor reporting the fraud.

    They vote. They get food stamps. They get large subsidies with fraudulent long form 1040s. They get section 8 housing. They get free phones and electricity. They get other people's refunds using other people's SS numbers. They abuse the emergency room like no other...for free.

    They need a free trip out of the country. Good riddance. :censored::censored::censored:
     
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    A lot of bigotry bloviating.......
    Now you’re all upset at illegals getting well fare you don’t believe in. Your warped ideas hold no water, you have no one to blame but yourself in support of every conservative that voted agaisnt comprehensive immagration reform. Btw, you checked the ID of every Latino looking person who buys food at a store ? Why not get upset at Trump suppling fake IDs so his illegal employees can buy subsidized food because he underpays them to begin with...
     
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