Blood-thirsty Democrats CHEER as NY Senate passes horrifying new bill legalizing infanticide

I also think that you should practice, with your friends, and the KOCH Brothers better life support. You really should adopt several kids, obviously you have lots of spare time.

 

Read it again because I do not see that in the legislation

But I do see people making it harder for those facing tragedy

So tell me, how many women are salvering over the thought of killing thier babies?

 

I agree with part of your statement and totally disagree with the later part. This bill actually can allow for a pregnancy to be terminated up to the 3rd trimester, up to week 40 of the pregnancy and they included emotional distress as a medical cause for a late term abortion.

New York eliminated the death penalty of convicted criminals but expanded the death penalty for infants that can live outside the womb. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

BTW, I'm Pro-choice with a dash of Pro-life in that I honestly think the early termination of a pregnancy (within 12 weeks) is within the realm of reason, as long as it's not used as a regular use of contraception.

I also think the fathers should be involved in those abortion decisions as it is currently, the mother decides to give birth, the father is liable (financially) to help the mother and child.. as it should be.

 

WHY should a legal medical procedure be rationed?

No, only the pregnant one gets to decide.

Do you really think the "father" should be able to tell the pregnant one to get an abortion?

 

So, how many women are going to get to the labour ward and go “sod it decided on an abortion after all!”

 

The same could apply to gun ownership.

Nope, but they should have a vote if the mother decides to terminate the birth.

 

Dunno, but it's now an option.

 

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WHY should a legal medical procedure be rationed?

So you couldn't answer my ON TOPIC question so had to segue off into another unrelated topic....I thought that would happen

That was in response to my "Do you really think the "father" should be able to tell the pregnant one to get an abortion?"

So you think that if a man impregnates a woman he now owns her and can force her to give birth....my, how primitive

If a man "votes" to force the woman to give birth it's OK with you but if he "votes" for abortion that's not OK with you ...correct?

Then WHY have a "vote"????

SO do you want to explain how men can FORCE women to give birth?

 

I did answer, however you didn't appreciate the answer. We ration medical procedures all the time. If we go to a single payer health system, rationing will be more the norm than the exception to reduce cost.

If the mother goes to term, the farther is legally liable, correct? If no matter what, the farther is liable if the child goes to term then he should also have the option to take on that responsibility and or raise the child himself. And regarding not giving the father a vote to abort the baby, I honestly think he does NOT have that right to force that onto a mother. This is a sticky wicket, I understand but I think parenting these types of decisions should involve both parties as they are both contributors to the creation of this life.

 

Why would I appreciate an off topic irrelevant "answer" ?

Yes, because THEN there is a CHILD whom the courts protect by insisting the parents support it.

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No, he can't just take the child away from it's mother.

But only ONE is pregnant.

That's the one who gets the choice. NO one else can force her to gestate or abort.

 

A check was written from the Republican Party to Hitler?

 

Correct, but until that child is born, the child nor the father have rights.

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I've never advocated for that. If the mother does not want the baby, but the father does, why can't he chose to raise that child?

But the father and mother are symbiotic in that both are required to form life. Women want equal rights, equal pay and treated as equals, but yet they can only determine the life or death of that fetus.

 

.Correct, a fetus has no rights. The father has rights but not the right to force someone to gestate or abort.

He can choose to raise the child (takes full custody) ….he cannot FORCE the woman to gestate it for him.

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AGAIN, ONLY ONE PERSON IS PREGNANT....and that is the one who has the right to decide what to do with HER body.....

YUPPERS!

Women have those rights AND the right to their own bodies....


Did you have a plan for changing it so men can get pregnant, too? Trust me, women would be all for that!!!!!!!

 

I’m independently wealthy.

 

What rights do the father have during this period?

That is the quib of my argument.

But it takes two to tango. Technology hasn't evolved to the point were a women can produce offspring on their own.

So, women are different than men is your point?

 

All the rights everyone has...

I don't know what a "quib" is.

So what? That doesn't mean her body isn't her own.

That sounds like you still believe that if a man impregnates a woman he owns her somehow....

Yes, they are the ones who get pregnant....

 

That is his opinion?
What did he say, I can't listen to videos.

 

This thread is on the NY law?
What does Va bill have to do with this thread?

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=quib

Her body is her own but that contribution growing in her belly was a a collaborative effort. If a husband and wife rob a store and the husband kills the shop owner, both the husband and wife are charged with murder even though the wife did not pull that trigger.

Your words, not mine as my argument does not represents ownership of a women and your fallacious attribution of my argument is well noted .

The child growing in her, however, should have the burden of both the mother and the father.

Again, not without the aid of their male counterpart. And I'm glad that liberals are starting to recognize that there are inequalities between men and women.

Anywho.... We are going round and round and we will not convince each other otherwise. I wish you the best!

 

Yes,
But they've been losing on social issues for decades now.
Dinosaurs eventually die off.

 

Everyone knows the tRUMPers idea of supporting those that are the most vulnerable.

 

What can't you get about her body being hers alone no matter what "collaborative" effort was made.

AGAIN, you sound like you believe a man OWNS a woman because he got her pregnant....he doesn't.
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Totally irrelevant.

YOU keep insisting that the "father" has a say....

Having parents is a "burden" ? What?

Equality is NOT based on whether one gets pregnant or not.

Sorry facts can't convince you.

 

Unless rape, a man and a woman get pregnant together.

 

Have you ever heard of Artificial Insemination?

Are you are aware that The Wheel exists? And Electricity?

 

So, you are seriously suggesting that women who have artificial inseminations are the ones having abortions?