74% of Democrats...Comrade Ocasio-Cortex for President

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  1. Moi621

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    "comrade" a form of anti-progressive Godwin's law used by right wingers
     
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    From wiki:

    The term comrade is used to mean "friend", "mate", "colleague", or "ally", and derives from the Iberian Romance language term camarada,[1] literally meaning "chamber mate", from Latin camera "chamber" or "room".[2] A political use of the term was inspired by the French Revolution, after which it grew into a form of address between socialists and workers. Ever since the Russian Revolution, popular culture in the Western World has often associated it with Communism.

    Well, Ocasio-Cortez is a Socialist, therefore she’s definitely comrade. I’m surprised, you find the term derogative, who’s is not. I’m sure, Ocasio-Cortez definitely likes being addressed as comrade. Why don’t you?
     
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    If RINOs of Trumpery are fixating on ineligible presidential candidates as opposition to their "God Emperor!", at least they are pleasuring themselves with a fantasy more attuned to reality than pretending she wasn't born in the US.
     
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    You’re correct in that Democrats have no legible candidates and most likely, won’t. Here’s what WSJ says qdount great Green New Deal:

    ...Yet, remarkably, the Green New Deal has been met with hosannas from liberal interest groups and in Congress. It already has 67 co-sponsors in the House and the support of 11 Democrats in the Senate including presidential candidates Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar...

    None of these “candidates” who signed on this Utopian green deal are legible but hey, a long good laughter provide us with they will :)
     
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    You must have forgot the counter to Hillary.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A threat to America she never will be, but entertainment providing us with she will, for many a year I hope.
     
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    Her New Green Deal is nothing but pure Communism. The Mandating and Coercion part threw you off Right?
     
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    And for control over all aspects of Society. Didn't take long did it?


    The 'Green New Deal': A Radical Mandate for Government Control of American Society

    Its scope and mandate for legislative authority amounts to a radical grant of power to Washington over Americans’ lives, homes, businesses, travel, banking, and more.

    Early on, under “Jurisdiction,” the document makes clear its grandiose philosophical vision: “The select committee shall have authority to develop a detailed national, industrial, economic mobilization plan for the transition of the United States economy to become greenhouse gas emissions neutral and to significantly draw down greenhouse gases from the atmosphere and oceans and to promote economic and environmental justice and equality.”

    In addition to achieving its goal of “meeting 100% of national power demand through renewable sources,” the document also repeatedly states the Green New Deal will advance non-environmental projects, such as, “social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice.”

    Between its calls for “upgrading” homes and overhauling travel, public infrastructure, and even the way Americans consume electricity, the plan leaves virtually no facet of everyday life untouched.

    The proposed committee would also have seemingly total oversight of American industry, with a mandate for pushing union membership.....snip~

    https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-radical-mandate-government-con
     
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    So 74% of Democrats would prefer an alternate reality, I'm surprised its that low.
     
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    Left wing...right wing is a political European thing.

    Germany's Nationalist Socialist (NAZI's) opposed and despised monarchies and a aristocratic society which made them left wing.

    That's why NAZI's in Germany toppled the statues of former German kings and aristocrats.

    In America the only true right wing political party of any importance was during the American revolution, the Tories.
     
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    Trump's devotees wee-weeing their frillies over Ocasio-Cortez is woefully misplaced stress incontinence.

    Beto O'Rourke has parlayed the reality-tv entertainer's fake "duct tape and prayer rugs!" hysteria into a nifty campaign issue, rallying fellow Texans against the poster boy of those "New York Values" in defense of their land against Trump's federal confiscations, speaking truth to power and representing the majority of Americans who oppose Lyin' Don's foul scheme.

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    Her New Green Deal is trying to save the planet. How can you and other conservatives feel OK knowing Mankind is killing the planet's ability to sustain human & other forms of life? How can anyone be so SELF-SERVING & NON-CARING about our home world & our own species? Concerns about capitalism, socialism and/or communism will become meaningless if our planet degrades to the point where none of us can survive, or even if we can, but are faced with millions of unwelcome & unstoppable immigrants from places where survival is no longer possible? AOC is doing all of us a favor by trying to respond to a very real & deadly crisis. You need to wake up and start helping instead of just finding fault.
     
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    When did you think AOC could tell China, India, and Russia what to do. Or Iran, or Lil Kim? And why do you think they would even listen?

    Moreover why would leftists think they could save the planet when they can't even save themselves in a Civil War?

    AOC isn't doing the Country a favor attempting to move the US to Communism nor Socialism/Communism Lite.
     
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    She would have supporters, that IMO are genuine space cadets. I just don't think there are enough radical left americans to elect her to the presidency.

    She is what FDR had to save capitalism and america from, long ago. The best thing cortez could do is to move us back towards the middle, away from this toxic neoliberal form of capitalism that has hijacked us.
     
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    i also thought that, but now that the supreme court will be mostly conservative for the next generation they may accept a socialist as president as a grand bargain

    while i would have accepted a Trump dynasty i do not think most Americans would after the house of reps was lost.

    the neo liberal capitalists are sabotaging the economy, makes it hard for him because he won on the economy.
     
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    By focusing on the conflict, you're missing the point. :( AOC is not only doing this country a favor, but the entire world if she succeeds.
     
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    You called Obama a comrade. Anyone to the left of Mussolini is a comrade.



    AOC does not hold post capitalist views. She's a social democrat.

     
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    Oh plz yes, run AOC against Trump!

    I'll sign back up for cable to watch that shiz!
     
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    She's a freaking moron; but she probably will become president some day and thus perfectly represent the real core constituency of today's Democratic Party. Sweet!
     
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    It's automatically in the pipeline. Socialism is the ideological gateway drug of Marxism. It's the political foot in the door. It's why liberals are so very often called useful idiots. Alas, it is also the shape of this nation's future.
     
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    Socialism is industrial democracy. Workers control over the means of production. Central to this are worker owned co ops. Central to Capitalism are private tyrannies, which is where people spend most of their lives. You're confusing socialism with state capitalism.
     
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    Blah, Blah, Blah . . . Marx rules! There, shortened it for you.
     
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    When the Bolsheviks took over they immediately destroyed socialism. They dismantled the Factory Councils and enslaved the population. Workers had no say. That's the opposite of socialism.
     
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