Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Yes to directly aim laws at guns is impossible I agree although I personally think that if they, I don’t know passed a law that ammo had to be made with diamonds for instance they could artificially raise the prices for ammo making it more difficult to use ones firearm.

    As far as immigration the entire system is flawed..... the language on the criteria to become a asylum seeker is overly vague ,the process from filling to a court date is way to long therefore these people are allowed to roam in America until their court dates. Then there’s the sanctuary cities. Us government has funded things that were less beneficial to our citizens than a wall. Didn’t we fund Osama Bin Laden? The contras
     
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    I'm OK with the 2nd Amendment, and I believe all Americans have the right to own the firearms that were around when the 2nd Amendment was written...
     
  3. TurnerAshby

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    They also receive some amount of subsidies that could be diverted to AOCs ocean train lol
     
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    So tell us all HOW you would rid the country of the 329,000,999 guns that were manufactured after the Colonial/Revolutionary period.

    Give us details, okay?
    Cost estimates, agency staffing, etc.
     
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    Go ahead. But if there has been an emergency for 31 years, why has Trump waited so long to address it?

    Either
    a. he is negligent in waiting for 2 years
    or
    b. there is not actually an emergency.
     
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    I was thinking we were going to have a real discussion but it doesn't look that way.

    How would YOU, Turner Ashby, fix it?

    Not interested in veering off into the weeds.
    OBL and Contra forums yet to be created.
     
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    How about free speech?

    We didnt have tv and radio or the internet back then either
     
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    Never! see the compliance % in NJ & CT etc...
     
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    What subsidies?
     
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    That's what he ran on over a year prior to 2016 elections... A promise that he is keeping! (you aren't really worth the effort here) so be grateful that I indulged you here w/ a response...
     
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    Economic Freedom is the base of our system.
    My Representatives will put US first. I love the way these Globalist hypocrits think they can demand that we elect them so they can work for "The World" and put us last.
    If we are put ourselves first, we will be able to cooperate with like minded nations and secure our interests just fine.

    Nancy Pelosi gives DACA kids the shiv

    Border deal shows the Democratic Party's vested interest in chaos.
     
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    Not
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    Clue...

    I just know most modern weapons do not belong in the hands of civilians

    But I imagine it would have to start with manufacturers and/or ammunition somehow...

    That's why I can believe in epic gun control all day long, since it's unlikely much can be done about it...
     
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    He’s doing what he did in business. When he doesn’t get his way he screws everyone. Where do you suppose he’s going to get this money from? This is a very dangerous thing and as a post to point it out if it was a national emergency what took two years? I was just another mass shooting that’s considered a national emergency
     
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    So the press should only be able to exercise their rights with quill pens, right?
     
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    The SCOTUS has already ruled that the 2A applies to commonly used weapons, there are several million semi-automatic ARs out there. It isn't about hunting, the Founders made it clear the 2A was to protect us from tyrannical government. We need that right now more than ever, given the recent Deep State soft coup attempt to overturn the will of the voters.
     
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    Who did the President screw?

    Seems to me refusing to provide the necessary support being requested by the DHS/CBP/ICE in the face of the crisis on the border is screwing the American citizens.

    Very dangerous to allow pure politics to place the security of the United States in jeopardy.
     
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    Surprisingly, statistics prove fewer people die at the hands of the press than jackwads with modern weapons....... look me up when that changes...... pretty sad analogy...
     
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    If you can’t think outside of the box then your right no we can’t. You wanna hang up on semantics to stick your head in the sand be my guest.

    How would I fix illegal immigration, 1. Rewrite asylum laws so they aren’t so vague and open ended 2. Increase funding for Asylum courts upwards of 1000 days to court tells me that the court is under funded. 3. With those things addressed it will lower the amount of time refugees wait for their cases to be heard therefore doing away with the need of catch and release.
     
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    A new study, the G7 Fossil Fuel Subsidy Scorecard, measured the US against other G7 countries on each country’s progress in eliminating fossil fuel subsidies. The US ranked the worst out of the G7 countries, spending over $26 billion a year propping up fossil fuels. (The G7 countries are Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK and the US.)

    https://www.nrdc.org/experts/danielle-droitsch/time-us-end-fossil-fuel-subsidies

    America spends over $20bn per year on fossil fuel subsidies. Abolish them
    While we need to leave fossil fuels in the ground, America is giving the fossil fuel industry billions to extract more

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...er-year-on-fossil-fuel-subsidies-abolish-them
     
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    Excuse me... since when have our personal freedoms, liberties & natural rights hinged on the 'litmus test' of Death? Do you not realize that there are US citizens risking life and limb (at this very moment) to secure your privilege of holding your 'deluded concept of reality' - in your coddled state of ungratefulness... (gonna stop - cus I feel the ardor coming on strong, lol)
    Do you ever contemplate what happened in the Revolutionary war... 1812?
    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” T Jefferson

     
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    Yes, I already said he lied to declare the NE. Thanks for confirming.
     
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    I differentiate between civilians with weapons and the military with weapons... learn to do the same...
     
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    "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence.[1] The phrase gives three examples of the "inalienable rights" which the Declaration says have been given to all humans by their creator.

    Kinda hard to do the whole life thing if your dead no?
     
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    And so the battle rages... and it will go on raging now in congress and the courts for month after month.

    To make this tactic work, Trump needed to SEAL THE BORDER SHUT in addition to 'declaring a national emergency'. I've already written nearly a dozen posts about this. If we SEAL THE BORDER SHUT, the Mexican businesspeople themselves will demand that the Mexican paramilitary police forces put an end to all this 'migrant' and 'caravan' bullshit on THEIR side of the border, where all the problems originate in the first place. And best of all, Mexicans fixing these problems in MEXICO wouldn't cost the United States a penny....

    But, without closing the border and thus forcing the Mexicans to 'fix' the problems themselves, Trump has done nothing but guarantee that this 'national emergency' will be hamstrung in federal courts infested with hyperliberal judges for a very, very long time....

    Conclusion: learn to speak Spanish, Americans! You're about to get even lots MORE new neighbors....

    [​IMG]. "¿Dónde está nuestro dinero gratis?" . (Where's our free money?) :hippie:
     
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