Christianity is the lesser evil of all religions and beliefs

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  1. Margot2

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    Do you know who Ishmael was? Do you know who the sons of Abraham were by Keturah?

    Muslims believe that when Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden there were separated for 130 years before God forgave them and they were reunited. They built an altar in Mecca.. and after Eve died she was buried in Jeddah... and gradually over time the Arabs forgot..
     
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    Yeah right.

    The Vatican is kissing Islam butt right now.
    It is monotheistic, we know that.
    We know what they claim, at least some of us do.
    I would never claim I know more about it.
    But I claim I will be truthful about it.
     
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    The Jews changed because Temple Judaism gave way to Rabbinic Judaism after 70 AD.
     
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    Here is your claim.
     
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    So what, it was invented in the 9th and 10th century.
    The muslims have no history of their own.
    The Kab'ba in Mecca was from the rock god religions.
     
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    So you want people to believe you over the Catholic Church because you say so. And you have not explained why you claimed no Christian would claim they are the same god!
     
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    Greek, Russian and Syriac Orthodox churches remember the burning of the Christians of Najran and that Muhammed protected them.. I think Ethiopian Christians also remember.. Not sure about the Catholic church.
     
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    Because the god of Islam, wants all the non-believers dead.
    and yes, Christians and Jews are non Believers.

    Exceptions are slavery, dhimines.
     
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    Of course they have a history.. LOLOL.. The tomb of Eve is thousands of years old. Muslims believe that Abraham and Ishmael rebuilt the altar of Adam and Eve in Mecca.
     
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    No.. Islam makes if perfectly clear that people of the book are not unbelievers but follow the God of Abraham. Do you know the sons of Keturah?
     
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    No, you claimed that no christian would claim the same god as muslims, I showed the Catholic Church does and you were simply wrong. Stop deflecting.
     
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    They have a fabricated history.
    They do not have one that was carried with them.
     
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    Do you see the catholic church preaching the god of Islam wants them dead.
    No you don't. why not.
     
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    People of the book were Jews and Christians, sometimes Zoroastrianism, and another I believe.
     
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    you claimed that no christian would claim the same god as muslims, I showed the Catholic Church does and you were simply wrong. Stop deflecting.
     
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    They are 1200 to 1400 years old, that's all.
    There is nothing before that.
     
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    You mean you haven't been to Arabia so you think there was NOTHING before Islam.. LOLOL
     
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    Seems to me you are trying to prove the catholic church wrong.

    https://quran.com/8/39
    And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.

    So who is right, Islam or the catholic church.
    BTW, I can produce a lot more verses like this.
     
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    Oh god.

    There was no Islam before 1200 to 1400 years.

    BTW, Islam will tell you that the Arabic language existed before Adam and Eve.
    Allah taught Adam to read and write.
    Abraham, Moses, Jesus, joseph, and Mary were all Muslims.
    Before Muslims were invented.

    Just because they invented it, does not make it true.
     
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    It's possible Christianity plays an important role, such as creating some semblance of compassion in the segment of the population who otherwise might have none, or deterring corruption. Or just good governance and respecting individual liberties.
     
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    The worst of that was in response to, or within less than a single generation of Islamic attacks.
    For example, Vlad to Impaler, a response to savage invasion from the Ottomans, or the Inquisition, attempting to religiously purify the society not long after they had finally broken the grip of being repressed under Islamic religious rule. (Yes, the muslims in Spain tolerated other religions, but put heavy taxes on them, and if they stepped out of line they could easily be beheaded or massacred, and they were denied justice in the courts too because the word of a muslim witness was worth more than that of two Christians)
    So when progressive scholars look at a lot of this "Christian violence", they're looking at it completely out of context.

    Then one more example is the massacre of the Cathars, who were not only propounding a false self-serving doctrine but were also defying sanctions against charging interest rates, which would give them an unfair advantage in commerce. The pope did have some legitimate reason to wage a war on them.

    The wars between European nations were actually relatively peaceful and civilized (if it is possible for war to be civilized), compared to wars in other parts of the world.
     
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    You can't say that Christianity itself is peaceful. The question is how Christianity affects its adherents, and there are plenty of instances of people using their Christian beliefs as a pretext for violence of various kinds, especially in historical contexts, but not limited to those contexts. Even today, Christians do things like murder abortion doctors or attack their clinics. Religion is a form of ideology, and ideology is dangerous, because ideology gets otherwise good people to do bad things, as they allow their religious ideology to define good and bad for them, overriding innate ideas of good and bad. This is how it becomes acceptable for Christians to kill others. If they believe it is the will of their god, then it becomes good and right in their minds. It's kind of like the ideology of warfare, where killing becomes right because one is "defending the homeland" and "serving one's country." That is a non-religious form of ideology.
     
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    Lots of Christians are violent murderers.
    However that is not preached in the religion.
    The religion itself is pretty peaceful.
     
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    family annihilators are predominately christian...
     
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    Lots of evil people claim they are Christian, so what,

    The religion itself is not violent.
    It's full of forgiveness.
     

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