To the anti-abortion people, a question...

The poster was asking how right to life people would react if toddlers were being killed and I answered that toddlers are being killed.
Killed by people that don't personalize them or see them as people. If it can be done with a fetus it can be done regarding any powerless human life that is seen as a problem instead of a blessing.

And I don't get where you think girls have or had less value in this country. That is simply untrue.

 

You don't mind that Maragaret Sangers plan to eradicate a race is working? Didn't you ever read the transcript of the Gov. of Virginia speaking of making the decision after a child has been born? Why would that be so terrible anyway if the child was "fair game" 10 minutes earlier? Is there a conflict in your conscious?

 

Sanger had no such plan and repeating it doesn't change a thing...


NO one could eradicate a race UNLESS black women were FORCED to have abortions and NO one has proven they were ...at least not in the second half of the 20th century.

 

And is done and has been done since the first murder when one person was seen as a problem and not a blessing.

Then you haven't heard about how most people in our history wanted sons because they thought only sons could work or run businesses.

How men ran business and politics because women were seen as not smart enough..

How much does a women athlete get paid compared to a male athlete?

Women get paid less for the same work as men, historically true, and true today...
The list can go on and on....

AND YES girls are seen to have less value when people think their rights can be taken away to control their actions....

 

Margaret Sanger would be against even one black fetus being aborted.

She was a pro life nut

 

Please tell me about these toddlers being killed. Do you even know what a toddler is.?

 

you must not know anything at all about Margaret Sanger....don't make me prove you wrong.

 

Sanger was anti-Abortion.


Please don't trot out those old trite quotes taken out of context that have been debunked a hundred times....

 

She was against abortion to her dying day.


She me a quote where she approved of abortion

 

And your answer was your actions would be no different if toddlers were being killed instead of fetuses. My actions would be completely different because I understand the difference between the two and I believe almost everyone does. Those that say there is no difference are either lying for reasons of ego because they have committed to the rhetoric of anti-abortion or are divorced from a sense of ethics.

 

You are not showing a whole lot of concern for female newborn and toddlers being killed in other countries currently. Are you saying that you would act totally different if toddlers and newborns killed...where...somewhere else then where they are being killed now? Or do they have to be in a certain neighborhood or have a certain color of skin? Exactly when would you feel completely different?

 

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There were abortions being performed before the time of Christ.

What the heck is your "45 years" about?

And, no, the rights of "people" are defined in our constitution.


AND, let's remember that EVERY American is interested in lowering the number of abortions.

EVERY American!

 

You are dodging the issue and changing the subject. The subject I was presenting is what if it became socially sanctioned to murder toddlers. You are inserting the non-socially acceptable practice of infanticide that is done privately outside the law. Two different things that you stop in two different ways.

 

You didn't answer the question either.

 

Nonsense.

Again, the constitution addresses your question and there is NO constituency in the US that would suggest otherwise.

NONE.

You're just trolling - hoping your abject rudeness gains you attention.

So, enjoy!! It worked!!

 

You seem to have failed the thought experiment.

 

Nonsense.

There has never been a constituency in America that has favored allowing murder.

If such a law didn't exist, we would make that law immediately.

 

How embarrassing, perhaps reread the OP and maybe you'll get it this time.

But anyway, so far, the pro-life people it seems would do nothing more than what they are doing now to save toddlers being killed which is pray, hold up a sign now and then, "change hearts", complain on a forum or face book, etc. My conclusion is they are either lying or they do not value human life as much as they think they do.

 

If you open your legs, get pregnant and seek an abortion to kill a child, you are one sick soab imho.

 

Oh, good LORD!!!

Look. Every single American WANTS THERE TO BE FEWER ABORTIONS!

The ONLY objection is the method of using laws against women as the approach.

Canada has fewer abortions per capita than we do, and they have NO LAWS against abortion. Other nations are finding solutions, too.


By DEMANDING that laws against women is our only approach YOU ARE BLOCKING PROGRESS AGAINST ABORTION!

If you really wanted to lower the abortion rate, you would work to unite all Americans behind an acceptable approach.

If ALL you really want is a political issue, then you are on the right track, as disgusting as that might be.

 

Like I said pro-life people "believe" children are being killed right now in their city and all they do is complain on a forum. Either they do not believe their own rhetoric or they have little regard for human life. Which is it?

I think the whole thing has flown over your head.

 

NO. There you go again - as Reagan would have said.

I'm pointing out serious mistakes YOU are making:

- your "kill a kid" thing is MONUMENTALLY INSULTING. Try not to make me see you as a totally disgusting individual.

- EVERYBODY in the USA wants there to be fewer abortions. So, get the HELL off this kick that Dems or any other constituency aren't interested in fewer abortions. EVERYBODY is. All you're doing is working to increase a partisan political divide.

- You are seeing laws against women as the only possible remedy. Yet, that is not the only remedy. And, it is a HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE direct.

Most importantly:

- you are ignoring that we could ALL be working together toward reducing the number of abortions. WHY are you fighting THAT??? Wouldn't more progress be possible if we were all on the same side?

 

Um....I'm pro-choice. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of pro-life people's rhetoric vs their actions or better their inaction. I have yet to be contradicted.
And of course it would be wonderful if there were no need for abortions and that is best accomplished with available reliable birth control which pro-life people are silent on.

 

Your OP and your argument that some see abortion as murder are exactly the types of arguments given by those intensely opposed to "choice".

So, I deeply apologize for misinterpreting it, and appreciate your position, but I"m somewhat at a loss as to how I could derive that from your OP.

 

Like I said pro-life people "believe" children are being killed right now in their city and all they do is complain on a forum. Either they do not believe their own rhetoric or they have little regard for human life. Which is it?