The "horrors" of Socialism Explained

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  1. Mac-7

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    The standard lib smear that conservatives are just robots being told what to think by talk radio is pretty crude and delusional on your part

    I interact with leftists like you every day and dont need rush limbaugh to tell me who the radicals are or what they are up to
     
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    I dont believe that liberal scare tacyic and neither should you

    Once the border is secured we can have a guest worker program that allows fruit pickers to legally come to the US as needed

    But only the worker

    Not their entire family
     
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    And certainly not a socislist democracy
     
  4. Starjet

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    No frigging way. Not then, not now, and though drifting towards, hopefully, not ever.
     
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  5. Longshot

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    All of them.
     
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    Nah. Police aren’t socialist.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    No its like saying we are a federal republic because that is what the Constitution stipulates to the states.
     
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    According to @Sirius Black they are.
     
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    Every government needs police. The difference is: in socialism the police help the thieves, in capitalism, the police arrest the thieves.
     
  10. Golem

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    Collectives yes. Societies, no.

    But it's not relevant at all. So if you want to believe they live in society, that's up to you...
     
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    Sounds like the same thing to me. But if you read it... you read it....
     
  12. Polydectes

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    How, they are different words.

    if I did you lied.
     
  13. Golem

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    Anything that requires pure anything is doomed to failure. That's why ideologues fail. They require purity. And there is no such thing.
     
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    What a load of crap! "Modern Democracy" was created after our Constitution, the French Revolution, and ulterior historic events. Before that, there was little grasp of the concept, except what was in old history books regarding the ancient greek Democracy, which has very little to do with Modern Democracy.

    Our forefathers knew two forms of government: Monarchy and Republic. They created a Republic because they didn't want anything like the Monarchy they had suffered under all their lives. And then they developed that Republic into a Democra

    Your ignorance in Political Science is only exceeded by your ignorance in History.
     
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    What are you talking about? What I'm saying is exactly the opposite of scare tactics. I'm saying that when (and if) nobody wants to do those jobs, nobody is forced to.

    Wake up! Pay attention!
     
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    Well if that is so, then that settles it: you didn't read it.
     
  17. Polydectes

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    Reading bullshit is a waste of time
     
  18. Golem

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    Good advice! I will keep that in mind the next time I see a post from you.
     
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  19. Polydectes

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    Everything that doesn't affirm your beliefs is bullshit?

    That's a cultlike mentality.
     
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    True, we have all been living in a type of socialism. But that socialism has been limited. "The Government promotes the General Welfare." True, put that promotion is to allow everyone to have a equal chance to make something of themselves, not that the government is going to provide it for you. In America, you have the opportunity to be anything you want if your willing to work for it. Not that the government is obligated to supply it to you. It would seem your heros in their new Green Deal thinks we should support them whether they want to work or not. Socialism has proven to take your liberties away from you. That isn't what our forefathers wanted. Do you think the government has a duty to provide you a home, job and equal pay as others have?
     
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    This is the dumbest ****ing thing I have ever read and completely inaccurate.

    Socialism is an economic system not simply wealth redistribution to make roads and have police/fire. That’s like 1/10 of what it means to have a socialist economy. A socialist economy is a economy where the state controls or centralized all means of production.

    The United States is a capitalist country that redistributed taxes to provide governmental services. “Democratic socialism” does not exist. It’s just capitalism with a bloated welfare state.
     
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    A nonsense reply. It was a mere reference to the debate over the source of altruism (e.g. in comparison with warm glow analysis that rejects self sacrifice). And it wasn't a requirement. As I clearly said, there's merely a debate over how worker ownership achieves higher productivity. That the free rider analysis is necessarily rejected is an empirical reality.
     
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    Really? How silly of me. Thank God, we have you, Ben Knobi, to enlightened us.

    Are you sure your alter ego is Gollum?
     
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    Socialism ignores the right to own and maintain property!......oh, I guess they let you keep some.....but they tell you how much!
     
  25. Reiver

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    Clear fallacy. Take post-Hayekian market socialism. That's built on the use of worker ownership to protect property rights (ie the value of your labour).
     

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