A Sanctimonious Crackpot

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with a sanctimonious crackpot. I would normally walk away from such a person, but this time around that option would come at too much of a cost.

    There is no social justice warrior in the world who is as aggrieved, as often, as this woman is aggrieved by her moral inferiors. This woman is graceless, merciless and completely intolerant of those who do not attain to her interpretation of Christianity. She condemns everything that she does not condone.

    I wish that she didn't act like some petulant SJW. I've never met a Christian so full of condemnation and so devoid of compassion. It's embarrassing; as a Christian, I'm embarrassed around her.

    I have learned some interesting things since I've been overtaken by my current situation.
    God reveals both good and evil. We can react to the revelation of what grieves God by either being ourselves aggrieved or by being grateful that God is not using us to reveal that which grieves Him. I, for one, THANK GOD, have a knee jerk reaction to such things of 'there, but for the grace of God, I go'. Others, such as the woman I'm dealing with, react to the things that grieve God by being herself aggrieved. Just who does she think she is? God?

    Anyways, any advice or insight will be welcomed. This isn't my strong suit. I make bricklayers cry, I'm not real delicate like.
     
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    My guess is Jesus wouldn't be the least bit embarrassed around her, but she'd be plenty embarrassed around Him.
     
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    Take up the matter with your pastor.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know Jesus, and I'm no Jesus, be He forever praised.
     
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    the obvious answer is to lead by example. when she condemns, you forgive. when she spouts her bile on her "moral inferiors", you praise what virtues you may find in them. never let her forget that this is the basis of your shared faith. though condemnation and pettiness may be a part of the human condition, the basis of christianity, as well as many other of the world's faiths, is the attempt to rise above these baser instinct.
     
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    People who suffer from moral superiority are often challenged. And it is the challenge that fuels them. I wouldn't challenge at all but, rather, do as @undertheice suggests. Nothing shuts down a moral bully faster than recognizing another is praising that which she condemns.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's exactly what I will do.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Get a new church.
     
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    Human beings are all mad. ..except me and you, and I'm not sure about you... ;)

    The petty foibles of humanity cause us all great discomfort, pain, and sometimes, death. Humans can be petulant, dogmatic, bigoted, and intolerant. I observe that constantly, just in the forums.

    Believing that 'Christianity!' is a magic talisman to ward off human peculiarities is a delusion. I have known bigoted, dogmatic, and irrational people in a wide range of philosophical beliefs.

    It is usually the false narrative from anti-christian bigots, who throw that accusation:

    'I thought Christians were supposed to be perfect!?! If they aren't, then there is no God!!'

    When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. ~Mark Twain
     
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    It might be time to check out the 12 step prayer. The only thing you can change is yourself.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All that one knows for sure when dealing with Christian is that they are dealing with one who gave their blame to another and took credit for what that other did.
     
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    There is no doubt in my mind, that some of the most maddening, irrational, and conflicted people among humanity, proclaim faith in Jesus. But many atheists are also in that category, so i attribute it to human nature, rather than some fault in the ideology.

    In the forums, both can be observed, though the hysterical dogmatism comes more frequently from atheists, in my experience.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This woman is a symptom of a the problem. The problem is that Christianity in general does not respect the core teaching of Jesus - aka "The Golden Rule".
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Jesus character said that he will kill anyone who doesn't stick with him. He is not a nice guy.
     
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    Passage por favor ?
     
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    iow... coddle the bitch so you dont suffer from your own inadequacies;)
     
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    coddle? not in the least. every opportunity to counter her intolerance should be taken advantage of, but direct conflict is useless with such people. as has already been stated, such self-righteous hypocrites react to confrontation by burrowing even further into their own spiteful world. only by exposing them to the more charitable aspects of their own philosophy is there any chance that they might grasp some semblance of enlightenment and this, after all, should be the goal of any righteous person. just as the basis of honest christianity is that anyone is capable of attaining salvation, i believe that everyone has the ability to attain an enlightened world view. even a democrat is capable of rational thought, though few will ever even attempt the transition.
     
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    tripe like this seems little more than the rantings of a victim of delayed adolescence. painting an entire faith with such a broad brush is idiocy of the lowest order. we've all dealt with professed "christians" who are little more than intolerant buffoons, but they do not define the faith itself. embracing such a faith is not an end in itself, it is embracing the path toward salvation, enlightenment or whatever you choose to call it. embracing such a faith does not ensure perfection, it merely signifies one's willingness to work toward it. most will fail. most will fall along the wayside and succumb to their baser selves. this is a problem with humanity, not with the faith itself.
     
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    As it says in John 15:6 (ERV) = "6 If you don’t stay joined to me, you will be like a branch that has been thrown out and has dried up. All the dead branches like that are gathered up, thrown into the fire and burned."

    The Jesus character doesn't like quitters.
     
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    How would you describe your life as a practicing Christian?
     
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    i am not a christian, practicing or otherwise. i reject the god myth for my own reasons. i do, however, see the merits of the philosophical basis of the faith. i see the good it has done for many and the positive impact it has had on the lives of my christian friends and acquaintances. i may be an atheist, but i realize that this is a choice and doesn't mean i must attack the faith of others.
     
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    I assume you are referring to the OP.... perhaps. That said the folks that give Christians a bad name are often a symptom rather than the disease itself.

    When you say "the faith" - this can mean many different things to different people .. nor is the path to salvation clearly defined. For example - Protestantism has "Sola Fide" - Salvation by faith alone. Catholic and Orthodox have a works component.

    What I find most distressing about Christianity in general is that the Golden Rule is not stressed that much - when it comes up it is more as an after though rather than a core belief that is explained in detail.
     
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    nope, just tell her to f*ck off... why pussyfoot around...
     
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    That is what we do, with some, even if we do not say those words. Avoiding bizarre, illogical, bigoted, hysterical, and dogmatic people becomes natural, over time. It is not necessary to confront every aberration of humanity, else you become that which you despise.

    Tolerance and forbearance are virtues, in Christian theology, and returning evil for evil only perpetuates evil.
     

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