Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

Nobody's saying they don't. I was making a point about "poor quality" kids.

 

It is the kids. If they don't care about education, no amount of money is going to change that. Thug culture has GOT to be called out and vilified and ridiculed.

 

AND I'm making the point of Poor Quality kids drag down the
learning experience for better quality kids.

I was surprised my Mexican American Nurse was tough on illegals.
She explained they settle in her kids' school districts and
hinder the learning experience for her kids.

I don't read YOU defending higher quality kids Right To Learn.
Just a bandwagon effect. Oh yes, they have rights too
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Fairfax High was the traditional Jewish High School in the L.A. School district.
Of course it was an academic star among lower preforming schools.
And over the decades it became less and less Jewish yet somehow
still manages to maintain an academic standard above surrounding schools.
I have no explanation for its' continued academic success compared to . . .
Just a story I thought I would share a few uploads ago.

 

It's been my experience that they don't care about education because their lives are so bleak, and they're so focused on surviving day-to-day challenges, the idea of some future reward after years of education is so far beyond their horizons, it's meaningless. If you plunk down a heroin addict who's jonesing for a fix in an AP English, they're not going to pay attention to Catcher in the Rye.

Will money change this? Sure. Money buys therapists and therapists are trained to help people overcome traumatic events, like the death of a parent.

Teachers get assaulted by students of all races. One of the challenges black culture faces is a disregard for education.

 

That's my personal philosophy, admittedly exaggerated. I agree with Flaming Liberal. We can expect adults to be responsible but kids are blank slates and generally they are a product of their circumstances. So, what measures can be taken early to ensure the best outcome for the most kids. They shouldn't be set up to fail by the time they reach first grade.

 

They're not "poor quality" anymore than addicts are "poor quality". They're people going through a rough time.

Such people certainly can drag down the learning experience of others. I can't teach if Joe is having a meltdown because something triggered him. If there's not a counselor available, I have to stop the class and become the counselor. That's why I'm saying give schools more money. Hire more counselors.

I tend to sympathize with kids who are psychologically messed up. They need help. If they don't get it early on, their lives will be ruined, I've seen it over and over. Kids who are well-adjusted will do all right. They can afford to miss five minutes of Science while I calm Joe down.

 

Call the social worker.

Don't burden better quality kids.

 

We disagree.
That five minutes breaks concentration.

Maybe Social Work is the proper venue and not educators.
Better quality kids should not be burdened by lesser
willing/able to learn kids
because it is the liberal thing to do.

 

Chicago Bears.

 

What college do they play for?

 

Indeed. It's outrageous we have to pull over for ambulances hauling ODin'g junkies to the ER. That breaks our driving concentration. Why are high quality drivers burdened by low quality people?

 

My kids go to a very diverse elementary school in race and economic class. Excellent school, but it pulls from a decent number of class levels. You have very well off uppper class who can’t quite afford expensive private schools, to people who can’t even afford lunches. I can attest from my daughters mouth that you have bad kids who bring the rest down. My daughter reports and has learned language and behaviors she never sees or hears at home. Messed up broken families. Drunk parents, etc. For middle school they’ll be transferring to a more homogenous upper class school. Still racially diverse but mostly white with more Jews, Asians and Indian....kids I want them to be around. It’s why we moved. Similar class. And is there any reason that’s a problem? We pay higher taxes in our city in order to avoid problem kids coming in and ducking everything up.

 

yes, most Nazi's are Christian, most white nationalists are Christians

 

Bad analogy time. Loser!
And you are a teacher.


I didn't understand for decades but in school when we were assigned a partner,
I always got the immigrant kid or otherwise less academically stimulating.
Then it occurred to me it was the Jewish Kid's Burden.
And I was not that good a student until my Corona del Mar High and College experience.
I guess they figured the Jewish kid's parents were less likely to object to partner assignment and diversity. I do not know.
I did notice that Jewish students were the was who got such partners.
Also applied to dorm room assignments in college.

I am not a teacher and write badly. (too many "I" statements)

 

exactly

 

some on the Right want vouchers, but doesn't want Muslims schools to be able to use them

 

No, I did the same thing. I made sure the neighborhood I moved to had a good school for my kid. And it wasn't cheap, and I pay higher taxes. You shouldn't feel guilty. Just spare a thought for some of those kids whose parents/aunts/uncles/grandparents/older siblings can't afford to pay higher taxes to avoid problem kids. That's the kind of school I've taught at for 20 years.

 

Hitler was irreligious, anti-Christian and anti-clerical. He thought Christianity was superstition, but he feigned a commitment to Christianity in order to be elected. Once elected, he clamped down by shutting churches and throwing ministers and priests into concentration camps. One of his friends said that he was an atheist. Don't try to blame what Hitler did on Christianity. He was for all intents a purposes, a socialist more than anything else...he disliked capitalism because Jews were capitalists.

 

If they spew hatred there, then, no, I don't. But, then, I don't like Liberal teachers spewing their hatred in schools either.

 

Why aren't Liberals in favor of vouchers? Is it because despite what they say, they want to keep the poor ignorant so that they will vote Democrat?

 

Hitler was a disgusting person, but let's not forget a predominantly Christian nation started both World Wars and went along with (and enabled) Hitler's genocide.

 

Liberals believe vouchers will widen the already huge chasm between the haves and have-nots by funneling money away from public schools towards private schools. Public schools in poor areas already are tremendously underfunded for what they have to deal with. There's also the issue of whether a rich person whose kids are already going to private school deserves tuition vouchers in the first place. And finally there's a separation of church and state issue.

 

Physical education has been an essential aspect of a complete education since at least the Greeks. And athletics are an integral and traditional part of most college identities and communities.

 

You’ll never find a school that doesn’t need more money, but that’s not the crux of the challenges facing urban schools.

 

Right now the biggest challenge in my school (rural/very poor/high minority) is the drug epidemic. Most of my students have a parent(s) missing due to drug death/incarceration/violence. The situation was bad to begin with, but since 2010 or so, we've been completely overwhelmed.