So? Speaking of Trump 2020...

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Is Trump's Entire Re-Election "Strategy" going to revolve around wallpapering the Airwaves (TV, Radio) and Social Media with a 24/7 Regurgitation of "It was a Witch Hunt/Dems Bad"?

    Thoughts?
     
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    Methinks the OP is suffering a bit of sorrow from Trump not being hauled off in chains because of the report.

    His strategy will likely be on stressing how well the economy is doing and making fun of the Dem nominee whoever it is.

    The press and the Dems have certainly shot themselves in the foot too many times to not remind the electorate what poor prophets they are. At this point the only way out for them would be to have a Road to Damascus Moment and admit they've been solidly in the tank for the Dems but no more. It won't happen of course - but one can dream. Considering the press has appointed itself Trump's enemy as opposed to simply reporting the truth - which is not necessarily the same thing as there's a difference in motivation there - Trump has every right to call what happened to him a genuine witch hunt.

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but you see it here on this forum. We had individual posters making thousands - not just a couple but THOUSANDS of posts swearing Hilla would win - and no mea culpa's from them, no owning up to their mistakes. These posters are not well regarded even today because of it. Not because they were wrong - but because they never owned up TO being wrong. And it's the same with the press - it's simple human nature. At this point the press has been proven so wrong for so long that it's become obvious to even the densest voter that they simply have no integrity or self-awareness anymore - and that when they squawk over and over again "Trump Bad", their credibility just sinks lower and lower. When they come out against Trump again in 2020 - and they will - they've made themselves a target, and a particularly juicy one at that. Like I said - their only way out is to actually be neutral and act it but there's as much chance of that as there is of the sun rising in the west.

    I saw it from the left - specifically one poster - after 2012: He couldn't stop taunting RW posters about believing in the "Romney Landslide" for almost FOUR YEARS. Heck, how many threads have we had here regarding the report coming out and the gloating/anticipation that Trump would be impeached, certainly politically destroyed, over the contents of said report? It's easy enough to search them out - the answer is, a LOT.

    Now multiply that gloating by - oh, a factor of many thousands and you have at least a small part of Trump's campaign strategy. And heck, I still don't think he's Presidential material - but I swear, the way the Left keeps acting, it's like they're trying their damndest to make me like the guy. They're certainly making me loathe the left more and more every day.
     
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    COLLUSION HOAX!
     
  4. Andrew Jackson

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    So?

    That is the Answer?

    Trump is going to be such a Lifeless, Unoriginal, Predictable POS that in 2020 he plans on running hundreds of millions of dollars worth of ads screaming "Witch Hunt/No Collusion"?

    Trump? :bored:

    What a Pathetically Predictable POS.:smh:

    Donald Trump? :roflol:
     
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    No - that is YOUR answer. And given your track record on election outcomes ...
     
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    You don't run adds stating the obvious. But he will certainly throw it in the faces of the public, that the dems are a bunch of looney conspiracy theorists that he is a Putin puppet also.

    1a. Put the navy in the Black sea for the first time without being invited
    1b Threaten Germany with sanctions if they build the russian pipeline.
    2. Stage military maneuvers on russian borders.
    3. start a nuclear arms race again thank bankrupted the USSR 30 years ago.
    4. Willingness to overthrow a putin ally in Venezuela.
     
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    He will of course mention the investigation. But the real deciding points will be if the economy is good, who runs against him, and does that person focus on far left ideas (green deal, universal health care, free college, UBI, and reparations). I think they could focus on one of those things but two or more and they will sink their chances as it scares of the electorate.
     
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    I think the only one that would sink the dems would be reps. Why is college or a trade school any different than High school or a vocational school. I would think the existing colleges would be the most concerned with the emphasis on driving down the cost and going to a more online model. Post secondary vocational schools would benefit as they are less suited to online education. It would wipe out the private online universities though.
     
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    Who cares right?

    Don't you believe the Democrat is going to win in a landslide, again?
     
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    I hope so. He's got enough sound bites for 30 elections.
     
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    Why do you ask? You keep telling us how much you don't care and how nobody cares about stuff so why would we think that you care now? Who cares? I think it's great for him to use the weapon that his opponents gave him to use against them. Hell yeah he's gonna ride that horse, along with other issues. Thanks Obama. Thanks Schumer. Thanks little Adam Schitt. Thanks Pelosi. Thanks Feinstein. Thanks Comey. Thanks Strzok. Thanks McCabe. Thanks Page. Thanks both Ohr's. Thanks Christopher Steele. Thanks Brennan. So many sound bites and campaign add material. Freaking awesome.
     
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    Colleges are drooling over increased govt spending on college. It's literally a free pass to raise tuition even faster.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.:salute:

    Trump is as predictable and unoriginal as it gets.:bored:
     
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    But the method of educating it going to be the same as Medicare. Which pays the lowest rates. The government/we will reimburse or provide free the first two years at the community college rate and the last two at the state college rate, if you attend on campus. If you attend on line they will pay for it at the state college rate. No one is going to pay for your kid to go to Notre Dame, Stanford or Duke. The premium colleges are still going to be attractive to certain students as they are now and they will forever be no matter if they charge 3x the price of state U. Now the local private colleges that charge 2x State U will be hurting, Unless they combine to form a valid and profitable online learning experience. And no Dem is talking about paying for room and board. also colleges like U of Phoenix will be the most hurt as they charge a private college rate for an online education. And the feds wont give the states a blank check either, I would say they give matching funds to what the states throw in. I think the increased use of online courses will lead to a college experience where your on campus for less than 4 semesters for Science students and evenless for humanities.
     
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    This is the first I've heard of this plan. I actually like it. I would make a couple a changes though. I would only pay the community college rate for all 4 years. Students must maintain a B average or lose their free money, any student that doesnt finish with a degree is on the hook for the total pay out.


    And after this, I still see it as a massive give away to colleges. Just like with every other increase in govt student loan programs, this will be met with tuition increases.
     
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    Hello? Your candidate, Hilary, ran strictly on "I am not Donald Trump" with a few promises to give women everything we've already had since the Equal Opportunity Act.
     
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    Doctors and hospitals don't tell Medicare what they will charge, Medicare and Insurance companies tell them what they will pay. I don't see why a kid needs to maintain a B though. Specially with the highschools sucking the way they do. Just like at work, they can pay 100% for an A, 90% for a B, 75% for a C and nothing for less than that.

    In Mass that won't help much, Community colleges is about 3500 per year, state Univeristy is 18,000 and with the kid much more likely to room and board I don't see how that makes it much more afforadble than the 3000 in Pell grants that the kids now get.
     
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    That would not be the best strategy. That's a 'no **** sherlock' kinda thing. The best strategy IMO would be moving toward further reducing marijuana restrictions at the federal level. Get it started pre-election, so that he has to be re-elected to get it finished. That would bring out a lot of otherwise apathetic voters.
     
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    You'd think this is a new thing, the media's #FakeNews and hate for Trump, but that would not be true. For those of us around during the Reagan years, the media was just as negative, just as much a propaganda tool of the DNC that it is today. The only difference is we didn't have as much 24/7 news coverage and, surprisingly, CNN was kind of fair back then. I remember though how they portrayed Reagan as a war monger who would start a nuclear war with the USSR, that he was unattached, that others were running the government, that he was an idiot or senile. People on both sides of the pond protested in mass.

    Another difference back then is Democrats were more willing to cross the isle and vote for him because they weren't a party of raging socialists back then.
     
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    Trump has a strong penchant for blatant flat out lies on one hand and simply not knowing what the hell he's talking about on the other. I don't see how any organization could simply report the truth and Not be at odds with Trump.
     
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    No need to. They have done it to themselves.
     
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    They could start reporting the truth for a change.
     
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    If by 'not Donald Trump' you mean 'actually qualified'... then yeah.
     
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    'Truth' to most of this forum means kooky and ubsubstantiated/debunked conspiracy nonsense that might feel good to spout on the internet but that isn't taken seriously by grown ups.
     
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    Kinda like the left wing media the last two years or more.
     
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