America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Obama was half black, his black father abandoned him, and he was raised by rich white people.

    Make of that what your will.
     
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    Everyone has inheritance rights. African Americans have inheritance rights for what was owed to their ancestors.
     
  3. ShadowX

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    bahahahah how have 18-25 year old black men "suffered severely"? Any more so than any other poor group?
     
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    So you think it's acceptable for our government to create programs and policies such as the SBA program 8a that provides grants, loans and government contracts to minorities that I can't get access to (or have to jump through a bunch of hoops for) because the color of my skin is white?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    That many?
     
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    Well as a Jew we see something happening in this country that we saw in 1939
     
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    You have access to grants loans and government contracts all you want. It just bothers you that blacks are enjoying those as well
     
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    No I don't have a problem with that. I don't care about that at all.

    What I care about is that it's racist and discriminatory if we were to create a program that denied black people access to funds that white people could get access to even if blacks had access to all other monies from government programs.

    But it's perfectly fine and not racist or discriminatory if we do the EXACT same thing to white people.

    That's what I have a problem with.
     
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    Not a fan of the title or content of this.. but I'm allowed to be offended.

    I have a few friends who are black, and they are Republican
     
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    Blacks have had access to the same grants for decades. Whites do not have access to some. You have a serious disconnect. Blacks have access to EVERY grant NOW. Saying blacks have been discriminated against in the past over and over again doesn’t change the present. Do you even understand the definition, because you’ve skirted around it for pages which means you’re either ignorant and have serious comprehension issues or you’re purposely ignoring it.

    If 3 out of 10 interviews for example, have to be given to a black person, then white people are being discriminated against. A black person is qualified for all 10 slots. That equals 100%. 70% is not 100%. This is not a difficult equation to grasp if you passed basic math.
     
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    Most Jewish people support Democrats, but a significant minority supports President Trump. USA is very very far from right-wing Totalitarianism. USA 2019 is much closer to Leftist Totalitarianism, worse then USSR ever had.

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    As acceptable as any form of inheritance.
     
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    Poor people of all races are disproportionately represented among those who break the law.
     
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    USA does not care for any people who need help. Minorities and Americans are disadvantaged compared to whites and people in West Europe.
     
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    So you wouldn’t find it racist or discriminatory if we had a program that provided funds to white people but excluded black people based on nothing more than the color of their skin?
     
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    That’s funny. Then why don’t we see the excessive levels of violent crime among other groups who are disadvantaged like Hispanics or native Americans?

    Why is it that at EVERY income level blacks are FAR more likely to commit violent crime than any other race within that same income level?
     
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    BS. White people are systematically discriminated against by their own government in the USA.

    The left has created an entire vernacular which makes it acceptable to discriminate against white people.

    Not to mention the social discrimination. We have DOZENS of groups that are explicitly created with the stated purpose to advocate for policy and programs programs that benefit non-whites while excluding whites such as the national black lawyers association, the national black accountants association, the black small business council, the black congressional caucus, etc etc

    Whereas I challenge you to name even ONE group that whites are able to join that explicitly advocate for the benefit of white peoples that we can join and not be IMMEDIATELY declared racist and bigoted.

    The black population in this country today knows nothing about being oppressed or marginalized.

    Here I tell you what. Name ONE way in which it’s acceptable to discriminate against black peoples today. Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
     
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    Lol...So, what's you final solution, bub?
     
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    no white person is excluded from grants, loans or contracts.
    you knew this was silly when you posted it.
    and this
    of course you would. You hate and have an irrational fear of dark skinned people.
     
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    How is it silly? You're making the argument that as long as one race has access to the same type of resource then excluding them from accessing some of that resource is not discriminatory or racist.

    Being obtuse isn't going to win you any arguments.
     
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    If those cities you claim have the most gun violence, it doesn't seem to translate into deaths.
    Almost mostly white states are the highest in gun deaths. Look at Alaska.
     
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    I bet you get upset that the handicap bathrooms have better toilets. I bet you get upset when the racer on the outside track gets to start ahead.
    You don’t seem to understand that black people and women have been handicapped for generation after generation. There were no specific white funds but blacks were denied access to them. I would agree with you if whites were turned down from opportunities the way blacks were, I would agree with you if whites were turned down from funding the way blacks were. I don’t think you understand the concept of institutionalized racism but it sounds like you want to see yourself as a victim.
     
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    Charlottesville?
     
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    I think that this is the data that a lot of you need.
    https://www.kff.org/other/state-ind...0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"}

    It's odd and interesting that hispanics are included in "whites" Even with that, the minority numbers exceed whites in almost every state. The Rocky Mountain states are odd, probably due to low populations but maybe not. I can tell you from living in NM and hearing the news every day (although I cannot find actual data), that 90% of the murders are from Hispanic heritage.
     
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    The overwhelming majority of gun deaths in the USA occur in cities controlled by Democrats. That's just a fact.
     

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