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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    It is when you're asked by said man to guard it while hes away.
    At least in Texas, which is going to shall we say differ somewhat from the English Common law since yall neutered yourselves.


    Besides it's literally in the plain language of the statute, how could they indict?
     
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    Disingenuous deflection from what @Xenamnes was nefariously advocating above duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Yeah basic natural rights stuff man. This really shows you know nothing about our Constutution and laws and should perhaps refrain from being so bold in your statements.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not at all, just correcting falsehoods and the misuse of termanology by yourself.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very true, but remember you are debating basic rights with a person who has none.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again since I have done nothing of the sort!
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    The inability to actually articulate a point raised on the part of yourself, however, is indeed a problem on the part of yourself.

    Discrepancies on the proper definition of guilty by association, however, does not change the point that was raised. The current standard being utilized, proposing prohibitions on commonly available firearms in response to the actions of criminals, should be utilized and applied to the actions of all criminals. If one home invader engages in sexual assault and murder of their intended victim, their actions should be regarded as the legal basis for the use of deadly force against all home invaders in the country.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Incorrect again.

    A question asked was.

    Why should the actions of one criminal not be cited as a legal basis for possibly killing another criminal?

    One of your answers was.

    There is NO LEGAL JUSTIFICATION for murder.

    Which clearly demonstrates you failed to understand the difference between murder and justifiable homicide.
     
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    And it is.
     
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    Sheep love their grass, don't they?
     
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    Your derogatory comments, insults, and denigration of anyone who disagrees with you are all noted as proof of the fallacy of your belief system.
     
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    Nope. That's the law, whether you like it or not. Where I live, if you find someone in your house, you are legally justified in shooting them dead without so much as a verbal warning.
     
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    Again, you show you don't know what you're talking about. A home invader who has broken into your home in the dark of night is legally considered to be a direct threat, and, again, you are legally justified in shooting them dead.
     
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    Nope, that's not what I said at all. But you go ahead and keep on spewing hyperbole.
     
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    When I was a kid, children took rifles to school so they could hunt game on their way home after school. Zero school shootings.

    I knew proper firearms safety from the time I was 4. When my grandfather was a kid, he walked into a hardware store with money he'd earned doing chores and bought his first handgun, along with the components to load cartridges for it.

    Kids back then understood, respected, and understood firearms and it was a far safer society then... but too many kids today have sheeple for parents who don't provide them those valuable life lessons.
     
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    Fair enough I didn't know that but I still think he's a red herring.
     
  18. Well Bonded

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    I believe that, a detraction was needed to get the attention off both the shooter and his problems and the abysmal failure of law enforcement and the Broward County School Board to intervene and prevent the shooting in the first place.

    For lack of a better way of wording, Cruz was begging for someone to intervene and prevent him from carrying out the shooting, he had mental problems and knew he had mental problems, but was ignored over and over and over, which I also believe pushed him further toward carrying out the shooting.

    He posted on social media photographs of himself holding his new AR-15, along with comments something like, "I will be the best school shooter of all time," one of his relatives contacted the FBI and informed them he was plotting a school shooting, but the FBI in D.C. never forwarded the complaint to Miami for a follow up, the BSO was dispatched to his home 18 times, 3 of them for firearm related complaints, but never arrested him or confiscated his AR-15, which they had the ability under state law to do, why?

    Under Sheriff Israel's policy of crime reduction, the Deputies where not allowed to arrest him for what was considered minor offences, as if threatening someone with a firearm is a minor offence.

    Furthermore had the FBI become involved they would have discovered Cruz had been committed to Henderson, a mental health facility in Broward, combine that with his falsified 4473 which he attested to by signing when he purchased the AR-15 he used in the shooting, they could have taken him down on federal firearm charges and sent him off to prison for many years.

    In addition under policy, the BCSB ordered him to complete an intervention program for youthful offenders, a program he never attended, which should have been grounds to have him charged with the assaults he committed at school, however the BCSB didn't want to have any students charged with any crimes, as that would have a negative effect on their crime numbers and that could ding them when it came to state and federal funding.

    Conversely, Hogg was not only getting support from CNN and Giffords, Israel was in on the blame the gun, not the person who pulled the trigger program, Israel need to keep the spotlight off the BSO and his crime reduction program of reducing crime by ether not taking reports or reclassifying crimes to a lower level, armed robberies became larcenies, home invasions became burglaries etc., unless someone was murdered, it was swept under the rug and the crime numbers looked good on paper even though crimes in Broward where actually rising, rapidly rising.

    It all seemed to be working, that was until the Florida Department of Law Enforcement became involved and a commission was formed to dig deeply into the Parkland shooting, the FDLE discovered all kinds of shady deals going on at BSO, from minor things like certain members of the Broward Democrat Executive Committee being issued BSO gas cards so they could fill up for free, to more egregious matters like high ranking and well paying administrative jobs at the BSO being filled with people who had zero law enforcement experience, but where major fund raisers for the Democratic party.

    In the end Israel was removed as Sheriff by governor Ron DeSantis and and replaced by Gregory Tony, a former Coral Springs police officer, who is well versed in law enforcement and a no nonsense person and who after leaving CSPD ran a company that specialized in advising school districts in hardening schools, to prevent such school shootings like Parkland.

    Right off the top of my head I don't have the exact numbers, but I believe so far 14 high ranking administrators at the BSO have resigned or have been fired by Sheriff Tony, as for Israel he is appealing his removal from office to the Florida Senate, a Senate dominated by republicans.

    His chances of being reinstated has a snow balls chance in H*** of happening which means he can kiss his $105K per year state retirement good bye, realizing the reality of such Israel resigned and will now collect his retirement, but maybe not.

    The Florida Senate is pushing a bill that will strip Israel and Deputy Peterson, a School Resource Officer who fled the school, versus engaging the shooter, the of their pensions, hopefully that bill makes to governor Ron DeSantis desk, who I am sure will sign off on it.

    So to wrap back to the beginning David Camera Hogg was a part of a cover up, a cover up that might have worked if not for the FDLE and Commission on MSD, and had former mayor of Tallahassee Democrat Andrew Gillum won the governors race, but that didn't happen, the planets didn't align and history is what it is.

    Though as an interesting note, Gillum was found guilty by the Florida Ethics Commission of taking bribes from some developers who wanted to build in Tallahassee, turns out the developers where undercover FBI agents, so Gillum's political aspirations are over and done, but not to worry, he has been hired by CNN as a consultant.

    Small world eh?
     
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    You are quite right and that gives me the significant advantage of addressing the subject with zero built in prejudices or notions like you fellas have. You have been brainwashed just like religious zealots have been.
     
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    What a bunch of BS.

    If anyone has been programmed by media it's you.
     
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    Nope, the Australian schmedia rarely has any commentary on the US gun laws or Constitution. It is obvious that there has been brainwashing in the USA and one indicator is that the language and memes of the pro gun/2nd Amenment mob is almost identical.
     
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    More preprogrammed BS from the anti-gunners who are programmed by Muslim media.

    You folks cannot even get our laws correct, so why should anyone here take you seriously.

    Your are blatant anti-U.S. rights period.
     
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    If you want to have a relevant opinion you'll need to understand how it works. If you havent done that, no one cares what you think
     
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