"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Illegal aliens never have been, aren’t now, and never will be eligible for Medicare benefits.
     
  2. rahl

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    Then you withheld incorrectly. You didn't get a bigger refund because of trump.

    OK
     
  3. squidward

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    Oh, you're offering to pay the same as the guy who makes 10X your income? I see.
    Giggles
     
  4. squidward

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    I'm not the one asking for a new tax funded health system, you are
    You didnt answer.
    Are you volunteering to pay the same fee to the government for your annual policy as the guy who earns 10X your income?
     
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    You willing to pay the same price for your policy as "the rich" or are you now expecting someone else to pick up your insurance tab?
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmm. The synapses just aren’t firing. That’s fine. Just don’t come bringing the government’s gun to free me from being a free man; the results would be contrarian to your hopes.
     
  7. dagosa

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    The govt NEVER charges for healthcare insurance that way. They use tax rates. You couldn’t afford to pay the same Fee as someone making ten private insurance cut you off. times as much. Neither can I. If healthcare went by fees to pay for the entire policy, instead of tax rates, no one but the top income earners could pay for it. Seems like a ridiculous proposition. You do the math. Look at the cost a a single prostate cancer surgery which many men are looking at....it’s as high as $135, 000 depending upon hospital. Do you actually think even the average high middle class person can pay private insurance companies on a fee basis for both their healthcare costs and profits. Laughable....
    Could you even pay for the drugs you get on a per fee basis ? It would be lik buying a new car every year for many. Do you know the actual cost of nursing home care for the elderly cost on a fee basis ? YOU. Might have enough to pay one year.
     
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    Another platitude. Where is your utopia ? Name it ? You can’t name a place or country on earth you can live as your “ free man “ without a central govt that supplies social services. Your wishes are jokes. Places without strong central govt. ? Try Western Sahara, Somalia or the Antarctic.
     
  9. rahl

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    You answered my question about straw men with another strawman? Lol pathetic.
     
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    You answered my question by avoiding it and spitting out your lame a tired strawman bullshit.

    There is no doubt about what you want.
    Nothing but bullshit justifications of cost and efficiency, when what you're really after is deferring your costs onto somebody else
     
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    When you make up arguments or positions for others, you’re going to be called on it. Sorry.

    Strawman
     
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    Awe shucks, another forum jockey ashamed to admit he's after other people's money.
     
  13. dagosa

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    Ah, another euphemism for you not wanting to share a waiting room with minorities. They are less affected by number by universal healthcare . 95% of the jobs lost were white middle class during the Bush recession. They lost their healthcare. The push for universal healthcare was and continues to be for the middle class who lost their jobs and their healthcare while the poor already had Medicaid. Universal healthcare is for the middle class of which I guess you don’t care cause you’re fixated on sharing a waiting room with minorities. .
    https://www.infowars.com/95-percent-of-the-jobs-lost-during-the-recession-were-middle-class-jobs/
     
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    who makes 10x should pay 10x then.
     
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    I knew that.
    It is all about your personal benefits and government welfare as long as government pays you directly taking money from my pockets.
     
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    Russia is best Russia!
     
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    strawman
     
  18. squidward

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    Reality.
    Gimme gimme gimme. The name of the game
     
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    I just took a look at the threads on the front page.

    Whatever you do Trump fans, don't talk about Trump. Don't talk about his decisions, his statements, or his tweets.

    Far left totalitarianism :roflol: is okay, so is socialism, guns, the Second Amendment, the black problem, and the NRA. Mythical medicare for all seems to be particularly popular among Trump's fans. It is almost as if his base consists of white supremacists.

    Naw, that cannot be, right?

    But anything having to do with Trump is a no-no. I find that interesting. They must be embarrassed of their support for Trump. We know they can't defend him. They ignore criticism of Trump and attack the critic. Cracking jokes and answering with cartoons and fake photos is a popular to response to accurate reports of Trump's activities.
     
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    nope. it's a position you've entirely made up and pulled from your ass, and attributed to others. that is the definition of strawman.
     
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    Giggles.
    Gimme my free stuff
     
  22. rahl

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    strawman
     
  23. squidward

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    Giggles.
    I can't cut it myself. Give me your money
     
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    strawman
     
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    Battle cry of those with no defense.
    Gimme gimme gimme,....everybody sing
     

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