Trump accuses FBI agents of treason

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I am anti-Trump and I do understand that the best is yet to come and Trump supporters won't acknowledge when it happens because
    they never do. This investigation has been short, as Benghazi took 24 months, and the Bill Clinton investigation took 4 years, so this is not a long time and is still in progress. The Mueller portion is complete and much was discovered that is still to be exposed. He has turned over much to the States Attorneys General to prevent Trump from pardoning his buddies. Plus he didn't want to step out of his
    boundaries.
     
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    There are treatments for TDS, I would recommend you check them out, I realize accepting the truth can be painful, but once you accept that fact, life becomes so much better, it's like having a 100 pound yoke lifted off your shoulders.
     
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    Thanks for the advice.
     
  5. PatriotNews

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    Let's acknowledge the underlying truth you fail to see. The veracity of the DNC emails has never been questioned or denied.

    THEY SHOW THE RACIST, SEXIST AND BIGOTRY OF THE DEMOCRATS AND THEIR PLOT TO RIG THE ELECTION OF CROOKED HILLARY'S PRIMARIES!
     
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    How do they show that? Hell, I looked at the emails, and they're sort of catty, but mostly meh.
     
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    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    Total denial. Google it.
     
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    Uh, didn't I just state that I read them?

    You're claiming that these emails are "totally BAD!", then freaking prove it.
     
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    Okay. 20190407_100301.jpg
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    That's PROOF!
     
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    Lol ...
    Seriously?
    Bush talked about nuclear weapons, and the chemical warfare shells and bombs were already mocked and buried or dumped by Iraq.

    And that was the reason why the US made a criminal ... yes even with Hitler's attack on Poland comparable attack based on lies and fraud?
     
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    Seriously, Bush was right, Saddam kept his uranium stockpile to manufacture nuclear weapons and had thousands of nerve gas weapons scattered around Iraq.

    What do you mean by 'bombs were already Mocked'? What do you mean 'that was the reason why the US made a criminal'? Hitler (and Stalin) attacked Poland to conquer and exploit it, Bush liberated Iraq from an odious dictator to install a free and democratic society. What lies and fraud, what are you talking about?
     
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    O dear ... you really be,ieve your own BS propaganda?

    A) Saddams intention for nuclear weapons were long time ago eleminated ... even before Gulf War 1991!
    B) They were mocked, dumped soimewhere and digged in the Sand and not secretly stored and not useable ... own ratig of US Army, not mime!
    C) If the freedom of Iraqi püeople was the goal, why doesnt USA liberate them, but messed the country due to total incomeptence totally up and made out of Iraq the current shithole?
    D) Germany made a lie of an allegated attack on a radia station doine by Polish Army as reason for war ... even they were Polish speaking SS members in Polish Uniforms. So a lie and fraud ... and the complete US reasoning is the same ... a lie and fraud!

    Got it?

    I know, you will deny this all and want still believe the fairy tales you want to believe. Don't worry, I have no desire to play the missionary to convice you about facts and realities here ... I name them only and what you do with this, is your issue!
     
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    A) Nope, read the CIA report, Saddam never lost his ambition for WMDs.
    B) They were 'mocked'? What the hell does that mean? They were secretly stored in the sand and elsewhere and still lethal enough to poison the poor troops who found them. 'Ratig' and 'mime'?
    C) The US (and friends) did liberate them but you don't snap your fingers and overnight solve Iraq's centuries old religious and racial conflicts. Nowadays Iraq is more peaceful, free and prosperous than it ever was under Saddam. Ultimately the liberation worked.
    D) Yes, the Nazi tyranny invaded democratic (although barely so) Poland, I knew that, they took concentration camp prisoners, killed them and placed them in Polish uniforms. What has that got to do with the US liberating Iraq from a vile dictator and installing a free and democratic regime?

    Got it?

    You mean I counter you with facts and you're running away? It's okay to admit you're wrong, everyone knows your conspiracy theories are long disproven.
     
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    You counter me with facts ... interesting: You counter me with the same BS lies and faked bullcrap as once Bush gang fooled you! This is the fact!
     
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    Your analysis is flawed in some respects. As a supporter of George Bush, I favored his invasion of Iraq as did most Republicans and Democrats. That being said, the result was catastrophic. Killing Sadaam turned out to be a huge mistake because dictators like him do control the bad guys through fear. He knows who they are and where they are and they behave because they are afraid of hi and rightfully so.
    The person who Bush put in charge, Breman (spelling?), dismantled the Iraqi army which was a huge mistake leaving several hundred thousand men without paychecks to feed their families and resulted in their joining Isis, the Taliban and other nefarious groups throughout Iraq. The pilfering of Iraqi treasures by the U.S troops and destruction of their statues, etc.rather than protecting them to give the Iraqi people a sense of well-being was another huge mistake and turned the general population against us.
    You talk about democracy? My view is that it is not possible in that part of the world. Israel was set up in the beginning as a democracy, kind of.
    There were no WMDs or anything else found in the invasion. Finally, Rumsfeld found out at the last moment that there were no
    WMDs and did not pass that information to Bush (I googled and so can you).
    My theory is that Cheney talked Bush into an invasion to kill Sadaam because Sadaam tried to kill Bush Sr. after his term as President.
     
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    I counter you with facts and you ran away. The wonderful thing about the truth is it's true whether you want to believe it or not.
     
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    1. You can't just say 'Oh keep the dictator in charge because it suits us', the West's record of backing dictators is bad enough.
    2. Disbanding the Iraqi army was a judgement call. Arguably it might have been worse had he not as the Shia would have been outraged that the regime had been overthrown but the same faces were in charge.
    3. The US troops didn't pilfer any Iraqi art treasures but they didn't stop it either, frankly I doubt it had much impact
    4. You can't just give up and say 'democracy doesn't work for these people', what sort of attitude is that?
    5. Yes there were, there just was no manufacturing system, Saddam still had plenty of nerve gas and his uranium stockpile, he suspended his plan to make WMDs but never abandoned it, continuing his research into chemical weapons.

    Please give me the link, saying you googled but leaving me to find the article myself is not how it works. The liberation was an act of hubris, the liberation of Afghanistan seemed to go so well the Western allies thought they could do the same with Iraq and reform the Middle East, draining the pond for the terrorists. Unfortunately it seems a forlorn hope.
     
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    Quite untrue on both counts.
     
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    What's his next claim, the FBI is responsible for unleashing cancer causing wind turbines upon the People?! He cannot be serious.
     
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    With a comment like that I believe it is you who is not serious.
     
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    yeah, I am sure Trumpers think Dirty Donald is a stable genius
     
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    Trump said the sound from wind turbines causes cancer... it's on video.... the senile old man has lost it

     
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    I too, was a Bush supporter. I never supported the Iraq invasion, though. I participated, in a small way, by helping to set up an airbase in KSA. My opposition was based strictly on morals, not any strategic thinking.

    I'm just wanting to comment on a couple of the items.

    "2. Disbanding the Iraqi army was a judgement call. Arguably it might have been worse had he not as the Shia would have been outraged that the regime had been overthrown but the same faces were in charge."

    I think it was a mistake; for the reason you stated earlier: Too many idle trained fighters. We'll never know if the results would have been different.

    There would have been no requirement to keep the leadership intact.

    "4. You can't just give up and say 'democracy doesn't work for these people', what sort of attitude is that?"

    I think that democracy was proven to work in Iraq. Obama simply pulled the rug out from under them.

    Iraqis lined up to vote:
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    I wouldn't know I am not one.
     

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