Congress will see Barr's redacted version of the Mueller Report

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  1. PatriotNews

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    I guess Mueller is protecting him too. His report found no collusion. But you previous post spins quite a tale of fictional Russian collusion.

    The only collusion with the Russians was Crooked Hillary Clinton who paid a foreign agent for a Russian dossier and then used it to spy on the opposition party candidate Donald Trump.

    I love saying that over and over.

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    Maybe you haven't heard.

    Your hoax crashed and burned.

    It's over. It's done. C'est fini.

    Too bad. So sad.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you "know" is based on anti-trump media's "anonymous" sources. Propaganda based on fantasy reporting. You can believe it but it's disingenuous to espouse it as any kind of "truth".
     
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    Yes. Perfect sense.

    I know of no such on-going criminal investigations into any of your examples.

    Emily Murphy is called to testify in front of the grand jury because Mueller thinks she might know something about Trump's campaign. She is assured that none of her testimony will get out and the fact that she even testified will remain secret forever. She either provides helpful information or she does not. She is the third party, and her testimony is to be kept under wraps, especially from Congress. Nadler (or is it Cummings?) is subpoenaing everyone under the sun that knows how to spell TRUMP. There is no doubt that Ms. Murphy would be pounced upon. Other than in weird exceptional cases Trump would not be considered a third party.

    A president does not give up his rights when he becomes president, much as many thinks he should. Barr said that he and Mueller analyzed culpability of, e.g, obstruction without regard to the sitting president rule to see if it would stand up that way. Another rule that Mueller fudged is that a prosecutor never exonerates or declares innocent. A person is either charged based on probable cause or they are not. If not charged they do not go on to describe all the bad things the once accused did. However, occasionally there is a slight exception offered for public figures. For instance in Comey's press release he spelled out the laws Hillary broke and then decided she would not be charged. But this gets dicey.

    Barr regarded the investigation, not the report, as misconceived. And that is only because it was. And.... surprise.... we do have a unitary executive, called the president.
     
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    Exactly. So not one agency disagreed with the finding that Russia tried to interfere in our election. That puts Trump in the position of disagreeing with the entire security apparatus. And since we know he is an uneducated buffoon who never reads, studies, or learns one has to wonder why he alone supports such a position.
     
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    After that post here are the reactions from some of Trump's fans.

    Typical of a Trump fan, no explanation and no source or substantiation. Just an absurd statement.

    Trump's fans think just saying something makes it true.

    Trump's fan have a hard time facing reality. Again, just an outrageous statement with no substantiation, more of dream, actually.

    The prosecutor from the southern district of New York.

    This one prefers to change the subject with old news and the obvious. This was known to all but the stupid two years ago.

    Pretty pathetic. These diehard Trump fans stay loyal to Trump, but they have no idea why.
     
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    "Typical of a Trump fan, no explanation and no source or substantiation."

    I'm a supporter; definitely not a "fan". Anyway; here ya go:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...tter-to-congress-summarizing-mueller-findings
     
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    Only you can make absurd statements with no explanation, source or substantiation.

    Crooked Hillary fans think saying collusion over and over again, pointing to convictions unrelated to Russian collusion, then claiming "they each had connections to the Russian government" is proof that the Trump campaign colluded.

    Meanwhile, it's established fact, in liberal media outlets, that the Obama administration unmasked Trump associates, wiretapped the campaign or campaign personnel, placed informants into the campaign, issued FISA warrants against a former campaign advisor, and launched a counterintelligence investigation into the campaign.

    It's also been reported in the news that this is because the Crooked Hillary Clinton campaign laundered money through Perkins Coie to avoid the accountability of campaign finance laws, to Fusion GPS who hired a foreign agent for a Russian dossier and then used it to spy on the opposition party candidate Donald Trump.

    Why do I need to substantiate something that is known by all?
     
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    You're right and the rest of the world is wrong? :roll: Got it!
     
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    Sandy's personal soundtrack when her messiah, Robert Swan Mueller III, determined that there was, in fact, no collusion:



    Poor little Sandy. )=
     
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    No, Nadler is subpoenaing the DOJ for an unredacted version of the Mueller Report. Why do you think our representatives in Congress should not see the unredacted version? What are you afraid of?

    Don't give me B.S. about how members of Congress will leak grand jury testimony and/or classified information. In the first place, you don't know that would happen. In the second place, that is ludicrous. It is the White House that leaks like a sieve, not Congress. You want to deny crucial information to Congress because of what they might do? Absurd.

    As for Barr considering Trump to be an innocent third party, so far he is mimicking Trump's statements. He said the FBI spied on the Trump campaign. A third party designation would fit DOJ rules -- a sitting President cannot be indicted, don't publicize evidence if the person isn't going to be indicted. You see how that is lining up for Barr?

    And he doesn't have any more rights than other Americans, meaning he is not above the law.

    That is a distinction without a difference. The investigation resulted in the Mueller Report. If you are saying Barr isn't prejudiced against the Mueller Report, you simply have not been paying attention.
     
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    "Crooked Hillary and the Obama administration?" :banana::clapping::roflol:Geez that is funny.

    So is this:

    And this.

    These Trump fans have not challenged a thing I have said.

    They support Trump, but they have no idea why and can't defend him.
     
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    Barr's summary of Mueller's Report??? That's very funny. Next you will be telling me Trump thinks Mueller's Report is a hoax.

    Same reliability quotient, Barr, Trump, there is no difference.
     
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    I support Trump because this country will never be socialist.
     
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    Six intelligence agencies and a 22 month investigation and they couldn't find collusion. Mueller should have walked in the first day and shut it down. They had no evidence from day one. #corruption

    Trump is right. It was an illegal investigation.
     
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    “I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal,” Barr told Senators. “I think spying did occur, yes,” because of a probable “failure among a group of leaders in the upper echelon” of the FBI."

    Robert Mueller delivered a nearly 400-page report to the attorney general last month with evidence that “Russian-affiliated individuals" had assisted the Trump campaign, but it drew no conclusion as to whether Trump had obstructed justice. Two days later, Barr released a four-page summary of the report in which he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein decided for themselves that the evidence was insufficient to criminally charge Trump.

    Well, they couldn't. The DOJ has a rule against indicting a sitting President which dovetails nicely with Barr's belief in the unitary President. The theory espouses the idea of an omnipotent President who can't be charged with a crime.

    Yesterday Barr seemed to indicate that he not only wanted to exculpate Trump of all wrongdoing but to avenge him as well.

    His statement about wanting to open an inquiry into the origins of the Mueller investigation was odd, because its roots are already well-known.

    The FBI launched an investigation into the President’s campaign after its warnings of possible Russian interference were ignored. The Department of Justice eventually began to investigate certain former Trump campaign staffers who had had suspicious contacts with Russian agents. Multiple judges signed off on those investigations.

    There was no evidence that government agents had illegally spied on the Trump campaign. Barr even admitted that in his testimony as both Democratic and Republican Senators bore in on him with his "spying" allegation against the FBI.

    The “spying by the government” line is a conspiracy theory that has been touted by the right and by Trump’s own camp. In 2017, Kellyanne Conway suggested that former President Barack Obama had used microwaves to spy on Trump.

    Still, the comments will most certainly please Barr’s boss, who has repeatedly called the Mueller investigation a Democrat-driven witch hunt and a hoax. That, too, fits with Barr's beliefs. Barr authored a memo saying he thought the obstruction investigation was "fatally misconceived."

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/barr-memo-mueller/index.html
     
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    According to Barr. He is the same guy who accused the FBI of spying on the Trump campaign, similar to what Trump has said.

    Barr is a bit prejudice, don't you think? Why should we believe what he says about the Mueller Report? Barr doesn't even trust Congress.

    Trump, Barr, these are your people. Congratulations. You are a real winner.
     
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    Barr has to be accurate, for the same reason Mueller had to be.

    It doesn't matter if he is corrupt.

    There are two many eyes watching. Until you can prove that Mueller and his entire team are being held captive, your supposed concerns must be assumed to be false.
     
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    THEY WERE SPYING!

    Thank you. We enjoy winning.

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    Still haven't figured it out?
     
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    Except that you haven't since 2016.
     
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    You changed the argument. Everyone agrees, and there is ample proof that Russia interfered in the election of 2016. There is only speculation and surmise with no proof that Russia interfered in the election to help Trump.
     
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    If you slectively ignore the intelligence, you could come to that conclousion, but it's completely false narrative though.



    Yeah, just TOTAL lack of evidence, like not even a hint....:roll:
     
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    I know of no such on-going criminal investigations into any of your examples.
    As far as anyone knows the SDNY is not investigating any of your examples: "Trump's involvement with hush money payoffs to a porn star and a playboy bunny, money laundering, tax fraud, and campaign fraud."
     
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