Justice: Suddenly, the hunters have become the hunted

The person leading the pack of democrats is Vice President Biden who is implicated in #SPYGATE. That's the best you got. He's a pedophile. Worse than Roy Moore because nothing was proven against him, just one accuser from decades ago. Creepy Uncle Joe is on video over and over. Good luck!

 

What's really retarded is the fact that the two year investigation proved that there was an extensive and broad program of direct russian government interference in the election process in America.

OTOH, I do agree that there are brain damaged reactions to this indisputable fact, like those who think it was all a hoax.

A lot was proven and a lot of open questions remain, but I suppose for many trumpettes, they have mastered the ability to comprehend what they do not read.

 

it didn't prove that. It was based on a false dossier.

it was a hoax the Steele dossier was absolutely a hoax fabricated by political enemies of the current president.

The one thing that was not proven was Russian collusion.

Let's first look at the indictments of the five Americans not a single one of them was for Russian collusion.

 

Oh look, another trumpette afraid of sleepy creepy uncle joe.

As if anyone can take a "character assessement" from a far right trumpette as anything but yet another indication of their lack of ability in making such judgments.

Joe's a "pedophile" who hugs people and smells hair and trump is a wonderful guy who just happens to be a serial sexual assaulter. Well, I'll bet women all over the world would take the hugger over the grabber any day of the week.

Course, you guys don't have ******* for him to grab, so it ain't a big deal for you.

 

So do you have a list of what was false in the dossier?

No it was commissioned by trump's enemies. Your "hoax" accusation is contradicted by all the stuff in the dossier that meuller actually proved to be true.

You know like Putin was actively and aggressively interfering in the election with a view to supporting trump.
I seems you didn't read the mueller report OR the steele dossier. Must be a fox news watcher.

Correct, it was not established that there was an active conspiracy to cooperate with the russian efforts. Except of course that in the one instance where Donnie Jr. met with russian gov't representatives to discuss dirt on hillary, already knowing of Putin's efforts to help elect daddy.

It did very clearly outline Trump's obstruction of justice however. There was more than enough evidence to conclude that but because he was constrained by DoJ policy of not indicting a sitting president, from the get go he knew he wasn't going to be able to issue indictments.

In fact he went further given that constraint and did not include a direct prosecutorial recommendation, because Trump would not be able to defend himself as per due process.

Yep, that is usually what happens when there isn't enough evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt. Meuller decided that Donnie Jr, was just too ignorant to know what he was doing was a crime. Its in the report you probably haven't read.

Now some people think that the 160 or so contacts between trumpians and russian operatives was wholly innocent even given the facts, the lies and the timeline. absolute proof of the utter gullibility of strong confirmation bias. Thanks for the demo.

 

"trump is a wonderful guy who just happens to be a serial sexual assaulter"

LINK?

 

that's a stupid question. The dossier itself has fabricated.

the dossier was fabricated so who cares?

Putin supporting Trump doesn't make any sense. and he's calling a person a Fox news watcher in your religion like calling them a heretic?

it doesn't really matter if I don't subscribe to the dogma.

 

You're funny.

 

We heard about the locker room talk Billy Bush tape joke. Nobody cares.

Creepy Uncle Joe, on video actual assaults.

 

i'm sorry, I should have added "admitted serial sexual assaulter". Cast your memory back, I'm sure you'll remember.

 

No, it was compiled. I see you have no clue how intelligence gathering is done.

By fabricated, you mean made up. Perhaps that is how you'd do it, but then you aren't a pro like Steele with decades of experience and an impressive network of sources and contacts. Nah, its all made up by evil hillary and the deep state who are out to get your dear leader.

I can totally understand how you can't make any sense of why Putin would want to support trump.

Donald Jr. was informed of favorable russian government support in an email from Goldstone :

"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?"

I find it curious that in the face of actual friggin facts that clearly spell out WTF the Russians did to screw directly with the election process and what the campaign did in response to NUMEROUS overtures from Russians. And don't forget all thru this time Trump was still trying to land the Moscow deal - WHILE HE WAS CAMPAIGNING.

You go right on thinking its all a hoax and putin isn't laughing his arse off at getting away with screwing his worst enemy.

Your dear leader spent an hour on the phone with Vladdie and the subject of election meddling just didn't seem to come up.
What a commander in chief. So what if America got it up the butt, NO COLLUSION.

pathetic.

 

I get it. Its okay by you. No worries some people love to get it up the butt. To each his own I say.

It is associated with Trump but he was just a pawn in the much bigger game of geopolitics. A subject he knows little. I have little doubt he will down in history as its greatest "useful idiot" due to his narcissistic need for legitimacy.

 

No. please link to a proven event, or admit that you're a propagandist.

 

of course. Nothing penetrates.

 

On the heels of the Helsinki summit where the imperial President bowed to the Russian dictator, Trump did it again today.

At Helsinki, Trump, in a stunning rebuke of the US intelligence community, declined to endorse the US government's assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, saying he doesn't "see any reason why" Russia would be responsible.

"I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today," Trump said during a joint news conference on July 16, 2018. The world was literally stunned by the President's remark.

Trump said he and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the end of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election during a lengthy phone call Friday but said he did not raise concerns about the possibility of Russian interference to come in the 2020 contest.

Mueller found that Russia interfered in our 2016 election “in sweeping and systematic fashion.”

When asked repeatedly whether he raised the issue of election interference or warned Putin not to do it again, Trump said, “We didn’t discuss that. Really, we didn’t discuss it.”

Coming from the President of the United States, that statement is truly remarkable.

So is this. when discussing the alleged criminal conspiracy between Russia and Trump’s campaign, the two imperial leaders actually joked about it.

“We discussed it. He actually sort of smiled when he said something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse,” Trump said. “But he knew that, because he knew there was no collusion whatsoever.”

The two leaders could not see each other during the call.

Many strongly suspect that Trump is being extorted by the Russian leader. That would explain his fear of Putin. It would also explain Trump's meek and docile approach to the Russian dictator.

 

First of all, they could see each other, it was a video call.

Second, what Russian interference? Facebook ads? Please. How many changed your vote from Crooked Hillary to President Trump, raise your hands? The only Russian interference was a Russian dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and Barack Hussein Obama. Comey did more to interfere in the election than Putin. And Mueller interfered in the 2018 midterm elections by not stopping the press from spreading lies about the #RussianCollusionHoax. He knew all along there was no collusion.

The whole Russian interference gag was just making up excuses for Crooked Hillary's embarrassing loss.

Fear of Putin? Really? What does he have to fear from Putin?

Meek anddocile approach to the Russian dictator?

Who told Mitt Romney the 1980's wants their foreign policy back? OBAMA! Who removed defensive missiles from Eastern Europe unilaterally? OBAMA! Who sold uranium to Russia? OBAMA! Who said, "I'll have more flexibility after the election", and then let Putin invade Ukraine and annex Crimea? OBAMA! Who let Russia into Syria? OBAMA! Who did nothing when Syria crossed the red line? OBAMA! Who made a lousy nuclear deal with Russian surrogate Iran? OBAMA! Who told the IC to stand down in the 2016 Russian election interference? OBAMA! Who sent socks and blankets to Ukraine when Russia started a revolt? OBAMA! Who paid for Russian dossier dirt against the opposition party candidate Donald Trump? OBAMA!

Who put defensive missiles back into Eastern Europe? Who canceled the Iran deal? Who pressured Germany to stop dependence on Russian oil? Who bombed Syria when the crossed the red line? Who put the strongest sanctions to date against Russia, closed three Russian consulates and sent over 100 Russian diplomatic officials home? Who sent military support to Ukraine? Who is standing up to Russia in Venezuela? Who canceled the INF Treaty? Who made Europe pay $140 billion more into NATO coffers? Who is rebuilding the military and updating our nuclear arsenal? TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP!

 

its on tape. And is corroborated by the fact at least 19 women who have come forward accusing him of various types of sexual misconduct from throughout his life. Not that there's any pattern of behavior or anything.

 

I wonder exactly what country you are a patriot of?,

 

Not one link to a proven account?

After Kavanaugh, who's going to believe the wolf cries?

 

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okay fair enough but it's compiled from fabricated nonsense.

 

Your conspiracy theory seems to have more sway in your judgment that do facts. Who refused to arm the Ukraine in deference to Russia? Who killed the missile defense shield to Russia's delight. Who did little after Russia took Crimea? Who watched while Russia flew its military into Syria? Who told the Russian President on a hot mike that he'd be free to do more for Russia after his own re election? That'd be the same guy who didn't stop the meddling into our election and was President while our government agencies were being hacked from every angle.....Obama. Talk about useful idiots. Try to consider something other than your anti Trump mantra.

 

Trump wisely sat back and watched this play out knowing there was no collusion to find. Now he goes on the offense and the people that put America through two years of this collusion conspiracy in order to discredit and hopefully remove an elected president are sweating bullets. The attempted coup failed and as they say "if you shoot the king you better kill him". People will go to jail after this and it's going to go way up the chain of command. Hillary and Obama both could face treason charges.

 

Its RAW Intelligence. Of course there is bullshit in it. But a trained intell officers collects all the intell, and doesn't attempt make snap judgements in the field as to whether or not to report it.

The problem is that some people have been led to believe that everything in the damn thing is either true or the whole thing is a lie.

This is a classic tactic of people trying to push a "fabricated" objection to something like the dossier.
From the holocaust denier's step by step handbook of tactical rhetorical approaches:

11. The Great Leap -- This tactic goes like this: If one piece of testimony about the Holocaust seems unreliable, then ALL testimony about the Holocaust is unreliable. If one Holocaust witness may have recanted something on the stand, then all other Holocaust witnesses are liars. If some camp prisoners did not starve to death, then NONE of them starved to death. etc. But be careful. This is a double-edged sword -- someone may use the well-documented lies of other revisionists to conclude that YOU are a liar as well.

 

I could address every one of your claims, but its not worth it according to brandolini.

Yes the mueller report does outline how many useful idiots there were in the trump campaign. As to criminal behavior, apart from detailing dubious behaviors, mueller also laid out a clear case for trump's obstruction of justice.

Oh and then there's this. Not only a useful idiot but a sleazy crook.