The truth about 'assault weapons' - 5-2-2019 update

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Just how close do you think you need to be in regard to the distance most mass shootings (LV excepted).
     
  2. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So maybe more effective for home defense
     
  3. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Inside a school, the range advantage of a rifle over a shotgun does't matter.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    In any situation where a shotgun is suitable for home defense, an AR carbine/pistol in a major pistol caliber is almost always a better choice.
     
  5. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which is why in a confined like a school, it would be a good tool to use.

    Conversely for say the Vegas shooting it would be a poor choice, as was the use of a bump stock.
     
  6. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True, but equally true of dynamite
     
  7. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    The people at that concert were lucky the guy didn't have a belt-fed water cooled HMG.
     
  8. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Which is irrelevant to the discussion.
     
  9. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry tog, i did not bring up shotguns, and am happy to drop their discussion
     
  10. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really
    If a tool Should not be regulated because some one might abuse the tool.... it seems to me that dynamite is relevant
     
  11. Well Bonded

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    In a home defense situation one of the major advantages the AR has, which a shotgun doesn't, is it can be operated by a light framed or young/elderly person, while a shotgun like the Mossberg 500 loaded weighs about the same as a AR with a 20 round mag, the recoil of the shotgun is significant to the point of many times being painful for such a person, whereas the AR with it's much lighter recoil doesn't present such a problem.

    Yet both are quite deadly and have good stopping power which is what counts in a home invasion.
     
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    No doubt about that. Another tool that can be misused.
     
  13. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another very useful tool
     
  14. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I don't know. I have no experience with mass shootings except, of course, during wartime. I used to use a 4.2" mortar to help defend the airbase. A mile or two was no problem.
     
  15. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats what i like about gun rights advocates... they are so helpful in discovering the optimal tool for mass murder in any given situation
     
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    The AR has many advantages; it gives up per-round effect.
     
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    Just trying to help the anti-gun left with their vast and expansive ignorance.
     
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    Or for stopping one in many given situations.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Consider this, if you were in a place where suddenly some nut-job began hacking people up with a machete, would you rather, while waiting for the police armed with guns to arrive while you get down on your knees and wait your turn for you head to roll, or have the ability to be armed and able to stop that person ASAP?

    Think about it.
     
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  20. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you think about a situation where that same person can go into any store, buy a machine gun, rent a hotel room, and start sooting people
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks
     
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    The optimal tool for mass murder is usually the optimal tool for stopping it as well.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Totally untrue, machine guns are NFA and require an extensive background check and approval by the BATF a process that can take up to a year.

    https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/national-firearms-act

    You might want to consider doing a little studying and get an idea of the laws when it comes to guns before posting more false information which makes you look rather uninformed in front a lot of people.

    And by the way avoid using talking points provided by anti-gun proponents.
     
  24. TOG 6

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    Aside from the fact you cant go into just -any- store to by a machine gun...
    This is exactly the case - the LV shooter could have dove exactly that.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By the way you clearly avoided answering the question asked, do you have some fears about truthfully answering that or some second thoughts about doing so?

    Could it be you know the truth doesn't support your narrative?
     
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