Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

It's "cold blooded" to use scientific terms???

I always refer "cold bloodedly" to my liver as my "liver"...ooooh, I'm such a bad person !!!

 

Civilized societies agreed thousands of years ago that murder is immoral. It is.

 

You know I almost took your word for that

In previous years I might have

But not anymore

Identical twins have differences that science is only recently able to detect

https://twinpickle.com/2017/03/14/do-identical-twins-have-the-same-dna/

 

I actually do through the decision making process that society uses to pass laws

 

And civilized society also agreed that abortion was not murder. It's legal to some degree in every first world nation on Earth.

 

America spends more on welfare for deadbeats than any other country

And I am part of that misguided effort whether I want to be or not

 

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YOU do NOT dictate what's moral and what is not. to others.

No, you don't dictate what "moral" means to others especially outside the law and ....most laws are NOT based on "morals".

 

YUPPPERS and more and more unwanted babies will swell that Welfare need!

But I see you think that children on Welfare are deadbeats.

Why are they so precious BEFORE birth but "deadbeats" after birth.??


Civilized society calls poor children "deadbeats" ??

 

Civilized society - aka the unelected demigods on the supreme court - also agreed that enslaving blacks people is ok

 

Did they?

Prove it.

 

did you know that genetic scientists can use genetic manipulation to assure that your child is perfection nowadays?

what say you can we use genetic engineering to bioengineer an electric chicken that makes 240 volts ac?

That might be against Christian values. At least against the values the people for the ethical treatment of chickens


If windmills are bird cemeteries than Kentucky fried Chicken must be hell

 

you know armed conflict has drastically increased with the Advent of communication

 

The vast majority of ELECTED officials have also agreed that abortion to some degree or another is not murder. Sorry, you fail once again.

 

Alabama knows they passed unconstitutional laws on purpose

this is a push to make abortion the number one issue in the election and somehow it's going to help Donald Trump and I don't f****** know how

Howard Stern says Trump has paid for abortions

Enjoy the trumpocalypse

 

And predictable safe. Modern medicine especially makes pregnancy quite manageable. And as has already been cited even from the AMA late term abortion is never called on to save the life of the mother.

 

Ahh which side wants to protect life? Which side says OK to kill it? And if you want to advocate no government because government "rules" people go ahead. When the Democrats pass legislation that says I can't put a damn to control a 2 foot wide stream running through my property that's ruling people. When the Democrats pass a law that says men must be allowed to go to the women's restroom, that is ruling people. When the Democrats pass a law saying I must purchase health insurance that is ruling people.

So if your objection is that government shall not "rule" people you got a lot of laws to be opposing here.

 

Yes, , pregnancy is more manageable then it was a century ago( although the US does have a HIGH maternal death rate)

BUT they can't change what pregnancy entails for ALL women:

Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

THAT is what the Anti-Choicers in Alabama WANT to FORCE women to endure EVEN THO GETTING PREGNANT IS NOT A CRIME!!!!!!


Now, please don't do the asinine thing other Anti-Choicers have done and go through the whole list and pick out "stretch marks' as the only side effect of pregnancy, that would be quite stupid.

 

Which is why late term abortions are very rare and usually involve a non-viable fetus. Of course that does not address earlier term abortions which can be conducted for a number of physical and mental complications and challenges of pregnancy. And there are cases where one or two fetus are aborted to save the life of the others when multiple fetus are present in the womb.

 

dude... as if you do not know what my point is... lol
Them are her eggs. She decides what happens to them. And when a rapist invades them, she determines what is done with her eggs. Not so different from shooting a rapist in self defense and killing him,... this is just killing a small part of him. No biggy.

 

I have supported by claims including citing the textbooks, you have supported NOTHING for you specious claims.
And you statement that

"A heart cell has human DNA - A heart cell is not a living human. This proves the above claim false. "
Is laughable false and a scientific and medical fallacy. You simply do not understand biology and embryology and cell specialization which begins immediately after the human life starts as a one cell zygote.

If it is human DNA it is a human, a human in the single cell stage of life, as complete a human at that stage of life as every human who has ever existed at that stage of human life,

Sorry I had a 3.5 in biology. A single cell zygote with human DNA is a human being, a human life, a complete human being at that stage of it's life. And then we continued to develop into multi-celled with cell specialization. That that is over your head is not my problem.

I have you are incapable of grasping the biology of life.

You do realize the zygote stage, that one cell stage of a human life, only last one day and then cell specialization starts?

What type of cell? A zygote or a specialized cell? One is a complete human at that stage of life, the other is merely a part of a human at that stage of life.

A zygote is a complete human being at that stage of life, a heart cell is a specialized cell of a human being at that stage of life. The zygote, being the being it is, a human life continues to grow and produce it's specialized cells and differentions going through the various stages of human life. A heart cell, a part of a human life, will always remain a just a heart cell, just a part of a a human being. That you believe there is no difference only shows how lacking you is you knowledge of biology and human development really is, no wonder you are so confused.

What is the point you are trying to make here anyway?

 

Because even the Alabama law is just a first step, what they want is what I just recently found is the position of the Catholic Church, where they forbid even BIRTH CONTROL. The ONLY form of bc the Church approves of is abstinence.

These people lie to everyone even themselves in the great smoke and mirrors bullshit that they're really concerned about human life when what they really want is to reduce women to second class citizenship. You think they're going to quail at a semantic error?

 

As I said, we are interested in protecting people..We want to protect the people living downstream who don't want their stream to go dry. Telling people what restroom they can use seems ruling to me and saying you must purchase health insurance is a poor substitute for what was really asked for in the first place which was single payer. Protecting people is our MAIN interest and that is largely a matter of protecting them from Republicans nowadays, who want to pollute our air, poison our water and drive our climate batty just so they can drive big cars.

 

So bloody what? Who are you or anyone to say a woman must permit an unwanted growth to dominate and threaten her life?

 

A rapist doesn't "invade" her eggs. If because of a rape the egg is fertilized and becomes a human being it is no longer an egg or properly called an ovum. A BIG difference.

 

And they also agreed that not all killing of people is murder in every circumstance and therefore immoral, Killing the enemy in wartime, frex, is totally arbitrary, but it is permitted.