BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. Josephwalker

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    More than that Mueller explicitly stated if he found evidence that proved trump was innocent he'd have said so which begs the question why would he not say so if he found evidence of trumps guilt?
     
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    See post #626.
     
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    If he can tell the AG what to do, why notv
     
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    Why do you need to see HIS finances for that? What is the emoluments violation you are asserting?
     
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    Then why didn’t he also leave open collusion? Or did he?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Just conducting oversight, no accusations.
     
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    That was not his job and since when does "not exonerated" mean guilty of a crime? Did Mueller say Trump committed a crime? No. End of story. Prosecutors are not supposed to engage in conjecture and suppositions.


    So the SP reports the crimes to the AG who reports them to the Congress and then Congress decides if those crimes warrant impeachment and removal so the person can be prosecuted in court or the Congress decides no it can wait until he leaves office as happened with President Clinton.

    Yes but Mueller could not come to the conclusion a crime was committed so indicted for what? And why are the Russians whom he did indict get the presumption of innocence but Trump does not?
     
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    he also said he was not gonna say as he could not indict, that is for Congress to decide, not him
     
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    Yes he told his legal counsel he wanted Mueller removed because of the blatant conflicts of interest. His legal counsel and his political advisors said that would not be a good idea even though he had full constitutional and legal authority to do so and the next day he ended the matter. So where was the obstruction of justice?
     
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    says the "lock her up, lock her up" or now the "lock them up, lock them up" Trump supporters?

    every person that is accused of a crime does not get to keep their job if there is evidence of their guilt... only Congress will be able to decide as Presidents can not be indicted, Trump is above the law, thus treated different, he can speak in front of Congress if he chooses too, sure they would be glad to question him under oath
     
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    I thought he served fast food to his guests
     
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    His mandate was to find out if trump colluded with Russia or not and now he says he's not gonna say. LOL
     
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    Yeah that's the left's theory, not mine.

    So you have no link. Thanks.
     
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    Crow doesn't take long. It's just that the left eats so much of it.
     
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    Trump got a lot more then 120 million, remember, we heard much of the fathers money was funneled to the children to avoid taxes

    remember Trump trying to use his fathers money to be listed as one of the richest people in the world.... 120 million would not of done that


    Trump was born into money and lost a lot of it

    "Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes
    as He Reaped Riches From His Father
    "

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

    we will never know the true amount he got from his father.... Trump lies too much
     
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    Not sure you can impeach a President after he leaves office? You have some notion that you can? How would you impeach and remove from office someone who is not in office?

    You do realize that if Trump is impeached and by some turn of events the Senate removes him from office Pence becomes President and he will be able to run twice and so he could and very probably would serve 9 years. You do realize the country is not behind an impeachment here and in fact want it dropped.

    "A Harvard-Harris poll finds that 65% of Americans say Congress should not begin impeachment proceedings against Trump. Sixty percent agree with Attorney General William Barr that “the facts and public actions of President Trump did not amount to obstruction of justice, especially since there was no underlying collusion.” And 58% believe that “Given the Mueller report . . . we should turn the page on investigations of President Trump.”"
    https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/05/26/americans-sour-on-impeaching-trump/

    The American people have seen through this and that is the middle, the moderate, the independents that are driving that number to 65%. Pelosi and the Democrats are stuck between a rock and a hard place. There are NO grounds for an impeachment and an impeachment will only hurt them in 2020. Now how do they extract themselves out of this mess they have created?
     
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    No - Mueller came to the conclusion that there was no crime A SITTING PRESIDENT could be indicted for - not that there was no possible crime. A sitting President does enjoy numerous immunities. Doesn't mean future indictments could not be waiting for an EX-President.

    Again, speculation - but there still 12 open investigations that Mueller gave information to.
     
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    The American crow can fly up to 60 miles per hour.

    Thats fast.
     
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    Do you realize how dumb that sounds. So you now think that if he found out trump committed treason he wouldn't have point blank said there was enough probable cause to charge the President with Treason. You guys are acting like now that we hired Mules for no reason that he couldn't tell us there was probable cause of a crime. Bull Crap.
     
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    if the impeachment happened in December 2020 after he loses the election, yes, Pence woudl be President for about a month

    and yes, Pence can run in 2024 if he wants.. I hope he does - lol, you guys shoudl pick him as your candidate
     
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    Moronic post on your part. Where did I say I thought Trump committed treason? Mueller was hired to look into political interference by international forces. He indicted Russians for that. The law states that anything OUTSIDE his purview has to be turned over to investigators who have the mandate to investigate anything outside his purview. Ain't rocket science and I can't help you if you refuse to understand it.
     
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    Claiming he cannot find that Trump did not obstruct using legal terms after claiming no conspiracy is a contradiction in terms. How could he make a claim on no conspiracy and claim he could not make a finding on obstruction?
     
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    He certainly did with conspiracy. Why the disparity?
     
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    many were charged, Trump could not be charged because of DOJ dept policy
     
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    I know of no one who is saying that Trump himself has yet been found guilty of a crime.

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    “It was complete and total exoneration!”

    Mueller apparently felt it proper for him to correct Trump's lie that the report had exonerated him. He had been careful to state that in his report. He did not have the option of indicting him while in office, and so it was never a consideration.
    He did not say whether he had concluded that crimes had been committed by Trump or not. He said that indicting him was ruled out by the Justice Department's interpretation of the Constitution, and so did he not regard it as being within his purview.
     
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