If as a Republican you think this is biased you’d best pay attention.

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    At least I can come up with an argument...what do you have? ....An actual knee jerk response that addresses nothing that I said.
     
  2. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    DACA. Nuff said.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    Kneejerk denialism is NOT an "argument"!
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You're right. You have no arguement.
     
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    JakeStarkey said: Show us where Obama did that. Don't show us your opinion, show us where Obama did that.
    Opinion does not count. The courts would have overturned it if Obama was acting like a Hitler. Hitler?
     
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  6. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Never said he was acting like Hitler. I laughed then at such a notion and I laugh now at it with Trump.

    As for DACA...it was winding it's way thru the courts when Trump came into office. It sister act, DAPA, was however ruled unconstitutional. And it was written the same way as DACA. DACA would have failed also if it had finished winding it's way thru the court system.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for DISQUALIFYING yourself from any further meaningful interaction on this topic given your puerile response above.

    Have a nice day!
     
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  8. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Lol...thanks for the laugh...needed that.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Doxxing is done by both right and left and so is just about everything else you put on there. Your problem is polarisation, I think.

    Trump is right out of Hitler's playbook. Find a group(s), demonise them and then sell yourself as the people's "savior" from these menacing reprobates. Stalin did that too but he had more "theoretical" backing, though both communism and Naziism were really just facades over two of the most brutal forms of tyranny yet devised. So is Trumpism, and if your particular ideology is keeping you from seeing that in its early stages then maybe you need to study less politics and more history.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Stalin didn't kill a single one of the 3 millions who died in the Ukraine famines. They starved to death all on their own,
     
  11. JakeStarkey

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    Thank you for the argument. Trump coming to office does not stop DACA going through the court. It's not unconstitutional. DACA will remain and Trump will go sooner than later.
     
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    That is disingenuous, Aleksander. Stalin as the leader bears the responsibility for the horrors of the famine.
     
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    Him coming into office doesn't stop it. Him trying to shut it down does. Courts only hear cases when the plaintiffs have standing. There is no standing if it's being shut down.
     
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    He has not shut it down. He can try as hard as he can, but . . . there you are.
     
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    Can you imagine Melania in bed with Trump? She knows of all the women he has had sex with even while pregnant with Baron. The 1st Lady knows how gross/ demeaning her yellow hair slob husband is with the very women he screwed. I feel sorry for Melania and understand she cried bitterly when Trump won on election night. There is an interesting blog devoted to how one deals with narcissist vulgarians like Trump starting with leaving them behind ASAP.

    But Trump will be prosecuted once he is taken out of the White House kicking and screaming like a pig. Pelosi is right that prison awaits this traitorous boorish Republican.
     
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    Maybe Trump will learn to read and educate himself behind bars
     
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Sorta my point. He was arguing that Trump hasn't directly killed anyone. The numbers are very different and it's nowhere near as deliberate but the experience of at least some of the 3000 who died in Puerto Rico is the same.
     
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    Gotcha, Aleksander.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Credit where due, Trump is a very, VERY good provider and does appear a sincerely loving father to all his children. It's quite possible that actually becoming the most powerful man who has ever lived has driven him right round the bend. Melania may have married a very different man and it's possible she still loves that person and hopes he will return one day
     
  20. Kal'Stang

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    He is in the process of. That's all that's needed.
     
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    JakeStarkey said: He has not shut it down. He can try as hard as he can, but . . . there you are.
    Nope. He is failing, as usual.
     
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    The kind of paranoid delusions displayed in this post, sadly now common on the left, is why Trump will win again.
     
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    as of nine days ago

    In the days and months following, multiple lawsuits challenging the Trump administration’s actions to terminate DACA were filed across the country. Two U.S. district courts enjoined, or halted, the government’s termination of DACA and required U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to continue accepting DACA applications from individuals who have previously had DACA. A third U.S. district court (this one in the district of Maryland) ordered the government to follow its original 2012 policy of not sharing DACA recipients’ private information for enforcement purposes, and a fourth U.S. district court (in the District of Columbia) has twice issued orders striking down the termination of DACA and reinstating the original program. However, the court in DC partially “stayed” its order that vacated the Trump administration’s termination of the DACA program.[2] This stay postpones the effective date of portions of the court’s order that would require USCIS to accept DACA applications regardless of whether the applicants previously had DACA. The decision by the U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland was recently reversed in part by a decision by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals issued on May 17, 2019.

    On May 1, 2018, Texas and six other states filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas challenging the 2012 DACA program itself. On May 2, the plaintiffs asked the court to issue a preliminary injunction that would stop USCIS from adjudicating applications for deferred action under DACA while the lawsuit is pending. After an August 8, 2018, hearing in Houston, Tex., on whether to grant a preliminary injunction, the court denied the plaintiff states’ request, concluding that such an injunction would not be in the public’s interest. As a result, it continues to be the case that individuals who have or have previously had DACA can apply to renew it.
     
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    Some serious personality disorders that historians/ psychiatrists point out. There is no "cure" and courts reject it as an insanity. The prognosis of Trump recovering morality is quite remote, I'm afraid. There is talk that Trump will refuse to leave the White House if defeated next year.
     
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    The only way Trump will win again is because the KGB is even better hackers than we all think, which is quite possible given the level of pure pigheaded presumption I see on here.
     

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