Trump approves strikes on Iran, but then abruptly pulls back

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your recollection is selective. Obama drew a red line in Syria. Talked tough to Assad then turned the other way.
     
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    Do you even know what the difference is between 'Supreme Leader' and 'President' of Iran? No, you do not. So let me take the time to explain this to you.
    So what?
     
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    Sounds to me like yet another case of 'white house officials' saying they're gonna do something before Trump said to do it.

    Trumps needs to fire some more folks.
     
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    That was their own money
     
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    The army does not get ready for war without the prez ok
     
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    The army getting ready for war does not mean the prez is sending them to war.

    For one, even an army such as ours needs time to prepare. That means getting them ready even if a stand-down is likely.

    For two, Iran has operatives. If we say we're mobilizing but the military doesnt mobilize, they know its a feint.
     
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    I´m German. Germany stands with Iran.
     
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    Right now 7 are going. One is in the yard.

    Why you ask? You think Iceland plans an attack on Hamburg?
     
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    You threw your "responsibilities" away when you became a brutal dictatorship. There is a reason why USA is one of the most hated countries in the world. It will go down like many other tyrannies before. Like Rome, or Mongol empire.

    You have no responsibility. You can take care of yourself and leave others alone.
     
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    How about i just say FU...like so many Germans do as well.

    Germany has better relatons with Russia than with USA. As things look like, your days in Europe are numbered. Merkel called USA a threat. Same does France. The EU decided to cut american companies out of contracts here.
     
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    Europe was not in war with Iran since the byzanthine Empire.

    Germany and Iran share a history that spans over thousand years. And in most of this, it was friendly.
     
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    No doubt.

    Just like Merkel stood with Moscow.

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    Like I said, West Germany didn't win the cold war-East Germany did.

    Your gal Merkle is naturally at home with Russia.
     
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    And?

    I support a German - Russian alliance.

    German efficiency combined with Russian rescources.
     
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    Your problem is that you have no clue about German history. For millenia the german power laid in Eastern Germany. Why you think the capital is in Berlin? Why cities like Dresden or Weimar dominate so much in art and culture? The 40 year division changed that but it falls back into how it was. When you look today in 2019 East Germany dominates politics like no other area of Germany.

    I´m born after reunion but as east German i never was influenced by american propaganda. The east Germans preserved the old german spirit, while most west Germans got soft and lazy. And today people here are immunized to american propaganda. We see your movies as crap. Your music as **** and highly critisize american politics. This started to spread to west Germany after 2000.

    So while East Germany is somehow immune to american propaganda, our socialisation spreads west and changes all of Germany.

    You were stupid. By allowing the Reunion you triggered events you cant control and that steadily push you out of europe.
     
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    Forfeited by their actions. Taking our embassy hostage has consequences.
     
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    You are not doing yourself any favors by saying the USA is a dictatorship. You don't like USA policy, ok there are internal opposition as well, which by definition is not a dictatorship. That said, if the USA were to pull back it's influence, I assure you, the world would never be that unhappy !!!!!
     
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    Same said Stalin or any other tyrant. The world was perfectly fine before your country existed. My own school building is older than your country.

    Stop to think so high about yourself.

    Each day your countries light dims more. When you look how your allies Germany, France and UK start to turn their back on you. How isolated you become and so on. Same as any country facing its end.
     
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    You mean the 18th century religious wars and then the 2 nationalism wars in the 20th century. You are actually trying to preach about dictatorship and wars !!!!

    I guess your mirror is broken.
     
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    Doubling down on showing how little you know about Iran is fun to watch.
     
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    It is not about progressives, and I don't think that he did this to keep progressives guessing. The problem that I have is his bluster,
    always threatening to use massive force, and then backing off. Makes him look weak in the eyes of friends and foes alike.
    Ronald Reagan never threatened, said very little about his options, and the bad guys were afraid, very afraid of him. He was cool, calm and collected. No threats, ifs, ands, or buts. They didn't know what he would do and knew his reputation as a no-nonsense kind of guy.
    Your guy is full of threats and nonsense, making excuses as to why he called off the strike, saying that he cared about the possible death of people. Great line--right out of little Miller's mouth because Trump could care less about people unless they are potential Trump voters. I am thankful that he didn't carry out his threat.
     
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    Marathon mouth flatulence is a pattern woefully evident to all.

    "Speak stridently and carry a limp stick!"
    is a policy that even his submissive bum-kissers strain mightily to defend.
     
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    And, we're supposed to believe that he was told - at the last minute - that there would be 150 casualties...only after he asked? In all other operations, when given the options, they include casualty count. So that didn't happen this time?
     
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