Antifa attacks in Portland

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, how can there be evidence to prove a negative?
     
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    Supporters of greater firearm-related restrictions cite said evidence on a nearly-constant basis, when they claim that said firearm-related restrictions save lives. They do not claim that the firearm-related restrictions have the potential to save lives, rather they make a statement of fact that the firearm-related restrictions they support do indeed save lives. They have no evidence to actually demonstrate their positions are factually correct, or cite what they are basing their optimism on, yet they establish it as being their position regardless.

    Supporters of antifa are no different in this case, relying on the same source of evidence to present their claim that their favored organization cannot be connected to so much as even a single death.
     
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    Sure, but we can't say that they CAN be connected to so much as a single death, can we?
     
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    It is not necessary to prove oneself as being factually correct, if the only goal is to demonstrate how someone else is factually incorrect. One does not have to be right for someone else to be wrong, as being wrong is a constant rather than a variable.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can anyone of even low or average intelligence approve of what antifa does?????????????
     
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    Those that ultimately approve of antifa and their tactics do so, simply because they are not currently the ones being targeted for violent suppression of free speech. They are currently saying what is acceptable, so they are allowed to speak without fear of repercussions, legal or otherwise. If those who spoke of sentiments against the united states were targeted in the same manner, subjected to physical assault and intimidation for daring to criticize the country they live in, it would be a different story entirely.
     
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    Sure they did. You just have selective memory. Please see a few posts above to links where people on this very forum made excuse for him.
     
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    How can anyone of even low or average intelligence approve of what proud boys does???????????????
     
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    No they did not

    You have imagination rather than memory and can not cite anyone doing what you claim
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your ability to follow a thread is atrocious. I've already posted links in this thread and not going to do so again because you couldn't be bothered to look!
     
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    None of your links supported your specific claim
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All you have is denials.
     
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    Wrong I have facts and you are proven dishonest and false.

    None of those links defended his actions and none of them said the victim deserved it .

    Two of them stated the leftist protestors blocked traffic which they had no right to do

    That is not defense of the murderer it is simple fact.

    One said the victim was overweight which may be insensitive bit does not blame her.

    You are proven wrong by your own failure
     
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    Saying that the victim died of a heart attack is minimizing and excusing the killers act. NO righties in that thread condemned the idiot so that is very telling. You can spin it however you wish.
     
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    yes, white nationalist and black nationalists are bad news.... good to see the right admit that

    and yes, I would say that both white nationalist and black nationalist that want racial cleansing are the worst human scum alive... they are just like Hitler
     
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    Yes they did and your claims are unsupported no matter how many times you stamp your feet and scream otherwise
     
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    There are reasons that I have such a low opinion of the intellectual muster of conservatives, and here you are demonstrating those reasons.

    You, or anyone can freely travel to Portland and be greeted with warmth and friendliness. That is the Character of Portland. However, ever since Dear Leader was elected we have been seeing almost monthly attacks by violent right wing groups. Every time they attack, the right-wing rhetoric goes crazy about how it was all the antifa.

    However there is a constant theme throughout. Portland is one of the most sexually liberated cities around, and the conservative attackers have been almost exclusively conservative men with women troubles.

    This latest rally was men defending men accused of sexual misconduct. Really? In the most feminist friendly city someone thinks that it is a good idea to have a rally defending rape culture. It was a chick that clobbered Andy Ngo upside the head, bloodying and bruising him.

    I'm sure you think the issues are different, as your media has once again misinformed you, but ultimately, you are defending the violent outbursts of gangs of sexually dysfunctional conservative men. Half of the anti fascists are women, thus they get to go home and have sex. On the other hand the fascists, Patriot Prayer, the Proud Boys, and the #himtoo crowd don't have that option. Is that what makes them so violent? Is that why they are so beloved in the conservative community?
     
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    So you still push a false narrative about sex (must weight heavily on your mind) about a flash 'stand for the law' rally by the Proud Boys. You also completely ignore the videos of the many times Ngo was attacked for another false narrative. Then you blame those being attacked by the violent leftists as the cause of leftist violence.

    My guess is that there must be something in the Portland water that causes these delusions and excuses for the violent left.
     
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    The subculture of which antifa arises is all over the Northwest. Their tell tale black and army green attire give them away. Most have tattoos and body piercings, regularly drink beer, smoke marihuana, and occasionally stay up a few days on meth. In the Portland area, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of them. Enough to be economically significant, even though most live a much more libertarian lifestyle than Libertarians can even imagine. Many subscribe to the no work ethic. The ones who show up to fight are only a tiny fraction of those who are culturally associated. On Saturday, I read one report that said at one point there were about 20 supporters of the #himtoo movement, broadcasting their drivel. That a crowd of more than a hundred began to shout them down. Remember this was in the middle of downtown, and Portland always has large crowds out on Saturdays. This was before the Antifa arrived in force.


    It just seemed so insane that on the Saturday before the Fourth of July, one of the busiest days in downtown Portland, that a group of conservative men would hold a rally defending the rape culture, accusing women of being at fault. And in Portland. Perhaps the most woman friendly city in the world. Obviously they went there to cause trouble.
     
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    They wear masks because if they were uncovered their moms might chase them out of their basements.

    I see you are still pushing a false narrative about the rally.
     
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    Here is a great idea. Don't like it, don't come here. You don't hear me ragging on the trash hole you live in.
     
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    So basically you want to live an a fascist city that does not allow free speech or free movement or basically freedom. Fascinating.
     
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    If the woman were in Antifa, I'd bet you all think it was an important part of the story.

    Right?

    Or...if she were gay or black or Muslim etc etc etc etc.
     
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