When will religion be overteken by logic?

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha...opening the Bible means your were still exposed to it. Do you not know what exposed means?
    Definition of exposed
    1: open to view
     
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    You misunderstand the point which is that vague similarities are meaningless.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they are not vague though, the garden of eden and creation adam and eve and the eating from the tree of knowledge, flood, ect....

     
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    You a Christian?
     
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    According to census data?
     
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    Like Hell you are.
    Thanks for nothing.
    Waddya want, a medal?
    Then seeing Einstein clearly did not share that view, I invite you to explain what you understand about either that he evidently did not.
    Please, you have no idea.
    So had I not opened it, I would not have been exposed to it. Right?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I embrace the Christian ethos, but do not take its mythology literally.
     
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    Are you a Conservative?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I'm a pragmatist, conservative in some respects, moderate or liberal in others.
     
  10. ECA

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    But ya did...so you were :D
     
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    So exposure to the Bible doesn't require having read a word in it. Right?
     
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    No I enjoy looking up possible contradictions, I just never find any proof the contradictions dismiss the core parts of the Bible.
    Everything is not to be taken literally.
    Do you believe before the flood people lived to be 900 yrs old? Even after the flood I think Isaac lived to be 200 yrs old.
    I think very often men have used the Bible for control, but I don't at all believe it was created for that reason.
     
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    So do you spend a lot your time and money feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, welcoming strangers, clothing the naked, visiting the sick, visiting the prisoners, and buying the dead? Or do you just call upon others to do those things?
     
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    There are also good effects of religion like charity and comfort for those who believe. The difference is between organized religion as a business and the individuals belief in religion.
     
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    Again, this is an assaultive question.

    It's a probe of ability. And, it is suggestive of ad hom based on assuptions of hypocrisy.

    How much one individual is able to do is NOT ON TOPIC.
     
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    I do not have a lot of time nor money to allocate to charity, but contribute what I can of both, and gently encourage my family, friends and society to practice Christian ethics as well. Few individuals can make a significant impact alone. It is a shared, communal mission.
     
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    Plenty of people give to charity, whether religious or not. Does comfort for those who believe offset the issues I raised?
     
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    That's kind of what I thought you would say.
     
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    Richard move cutting off his actual full statement.
     
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    now like you, I do not take my own religions myths literally either... I think some people through time made stuff up and added myths to it to try and sell the religion... it happens

    I believe some of the major concepts, which I am sure is true of many Christians about their own bible

    it's those that think the bible is word for word from their God and infallible that I disagree with as it obviously is not

    all one has to do is look at what the bible says were Jesus last words before his last breath, three different stories, three different answers

    Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

    Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

    John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
     
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    If you are unable to deal with my entire statement, I understand.

    Nevertheless, despite serious health issues and consequently diminished personal resources, I try to do what I can.
     
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    There is nothing in the teachings of Jesus that requires one to spend billions of dollars on the process of helping the poor that in point of fact never feeds clothes or gives drink to anyone. If I buy a man a meal for about ten bucks he has plenty to eat. Filter than same ten bucks through the federal bureaucracy and he's going to need another 7 to 8 dollars.
     
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    Yes. And, that kind of help is important.

    The parts not solved by that come with the need for coverage of our population (which individuals can't do) and the fact that individual giving has never been at a level that is adequate.
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    It's a probe of the truth. If the truth is what bothers you, then that would be your problem, not mine.
     

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