Judge Says Trump Campaign-Finance Probe Tied to Cohen Is Over

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    If somebody still has to explain the difference to you between what Trump did and what Obama's campaign did, there's no real reason to.... you won't get it...
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And I took you off ignore for this single post??... That's just about the worst recap of this case I've read...

    Totally my bad... Must be the heat....
     
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    They went after Cavanaugh with zero evidence. They don't have to prove anything.
     
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    Did you even read the link?

    Obviously not.
     
  5. Nunya D.

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    I have little doubt that you think it is "the worst recap". Some people do not like recaps based on facts.

     
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    And if ANY part of that payoff was to save his family embarrassment, it is not a campaign finance violation.

    Cohen's guilty plea Mueller forced him to compose by threatening his wife isn't binding on Trump.
     
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  7. Egoboy

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    Completely incorrect, but keep pedaling up that hill.... it's good exercise!

    All he needed to do was to pay the money out of his personal funds OR use official campaign funds AND report it, and the problem goes away.... He did neither. Like 98% of his problems, he brings it on himself by trying to skirt the law...

    Still haven't seen the documents posted anywhere... want to read them after the Open is done for the day...
     
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    Well, he certainly is nationalist, and that’s about a half-step behind the racist.

    Trump is still Trump, no matter what a judge says or the masses believe.
     
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    EGO I will give you credit no matter how many times your thoughts get proven wrong you still keep on typing. I will give you the energizer bunny award though![​IMG]
     
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    Since when is being a Nationalist considered as being "a half-step behind the racist"? Maybe is it because the word was used by some organization in the 1930's and people can not or will not be bothered with the actual definition of the word. Seems kind of lazy to me.

    All a Nationalist is, is a person that strongly identifies with their own nation over the interests of other nations. What is wrong with that? I can not believe we have reached a point in our society where people that feel that the interest of their own nation over others is considered as being racist.....or even close to it.
     
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    It makes sense if you're an elitist/globalist.
     
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    Lost in all this is that we now have proof that trump lied about being unaware of the payments. Of course everyone already knows he’s a liar, so thats barely even news.
     
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    Yawn... Trump lied.... Also in breaking news, it's hot in July in DC....

    He still won't admit he banged Stormy one time and had a several month affair with McDougal...

    What a stand up guy... He's my personal hero...
     
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    Uh, we don't know if we have him or not. Info out today says they have evidence he knew of the payments at the time, which isn't good. Napolitano put it best: if they are going to go after Trump on this, it will be through sealed indictments that will be unsealed when he leaves office. Maybe that happened and maybe it didn't. SDNY's comments indicate that have something on him, and it would be unusual for them to prosecute the lawyer and not his client if they have reason to believe the client directed the lawyer to perform these actions.
     
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    Exactamundo! He obviously knew about and directed the payments be made.... the only thing left for me is some evidence he knew it was a campaign finance violation, which has to be exceedingly hard to prove... Might have to go with the simple preponderance of evidence argument there, by the hiding of the payments through his lawyers bogus corporation...

    But is simply hiding the payment and not reporting it evidence they knew they were violating criminal campaign finance rules??

    Dunno.... but it should be...
     
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    Yep , president of the USA.
     
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    Judge Says Trump Campaign-Finance Probe Tied to Cohen Is Over

    Another bad day for you.
     
  19. BuckyBadger

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    You know they released all of this after the investigation concluded, right? That means it's over and done with.
     
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    Sure.. the investigation is over... i get it..

    Next comes to process the results..

    It's a multi-step process... Step 1 is over.. yay
     
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    Nationalism is my country, right or wrong. It's blind faith in a geographical location that is an accident of birth. It's the path to mass slaughter of those that are not us. It's collectivism. It’s bowing to a land mass. It's the rejection of the fundamental (Individualism) and an embracing of the superficial (tribalism) I reject it as totalitarian.

    Nationalism and Americanism


    Nationalism is Raising It’s Ugly Head
    https://newideal.aynrand.org/the-vice-of-nationalism/
     
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    I must say, that was some pretty tripe....but tripe none-the-less.
     
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    Calling it so, doesn't make it so. Let each honest soul judge for themselves the ”tripeness” of Individualism vs Nationalism. And which one is a superficial accident of birth, and which one is a fundamental principle of liberty.

    Ayn Rand:
    “Individualism regards man—every man—as an independent, sovereign entity who possesses an inalienable right to his own life, a right derived from his nature as a rational being. Individualism holds that a civilized society, or any form of association, cooperation or peaceful coexistence among men, can be achieved only on the basis of the recognition of individual rights—and that a group, as such, has no rights other than the individual rights of its members.

    Nationalism is collectivism:

    Ayn Rand:
    “Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group—whether to a race, class or state does not matter. Collectivism holds that man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called “the common good.”

    As a free man, I rejection nationalism, for it is nothing more than the promise of the slaughter of others for the “national good”. Like what happen in Charlotte. As a free man, I like to think for myself, something Nationalism would never tolerate. As a free man, my life is my to live, not Trump’s to nationalize.
     
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  24. Bluesguy

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    Campaign violations are the issue. Obama had to pay a fine for his violation, one of the biggest every.

    There is no campaign violation here, the prosecutors could not find one so the judge has dismissed the case.

    As I predict regardless of the facts the TDSers will continue to pretend it occurred.

    To Nunya
    Oh I get it now you have nothing intellectual to add just invective.....gotcha :thumbsup:

    Another nothingburger.
     
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  25. Bluesguy

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    Cohen testified under oath before Congress Trump told him he didn't want his wife to find out. End of story.
     

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