Despite threat, Republicans block election security bills

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    During the hearing featuring Robert Mueller, special counsel for the 400-page Mueller Report, Rep. Will Hurd, a Texas Republican who previously served in the CIA, said Russia posed a “significant threat” as it increased the frequency and intensity of its active measures.

    Mueller agreed, adding that in 2020, the threat wouldn’t be coming from Russia alone. “Many more countries are developing the capability to replicate what the Russians have done.”

    “The Russians are absolutely intent on trying to interfere with our elections,” FBI Director Christopher Wray said on Tuesday.

    CNN reports, "The Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday released a wide-ranging report that detailed Russia's attempts to hack US election infrastructure during the 2016 election, urging states and the federal government to do more to prevent election cyberattacks in the future.

    "The 67-page bipartisan report concluded that the Russian government "directed extensive activity against U.S. election infrastructure" from 2014 through 2017.

    "Based on what the IC knows about Russia's operating procedures and intentions more broadly, the IC assesses that Russia's activities against U.S. election infrastructure likely sought to further their overarching goal; undermining the integrity of elections and American confidence in democracy," it states."

    "This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won," President Donald Trump.

    Never one to question the President on anything, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked two election security measures on Thursday, arguing Democrats are trying to give themselves a "political benefit," so says The Hill.

    “Clearly this request is not a serious effort to make a law. Clearly something so partisan that it only received one single solitary Republican vote in the House is not going to travel through the Senate by unanimous consent,” McConnell said.

    Okay. Now the question becomes, Senator, you have enjoyed a Republican majority for over 30 months, for two years you had the assistance of a Republican controlled House, and we have been aware of this problem for over four years, where is the Republican bill(s) for election security?

    There is an abundance of evidence from your own Senate Intelligence Committee that the problem has not gone away.

    Is it because the boss won't allow it? He thinks it is all a "made-up story."
     
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    Where is the GOP's bills in both chambers as well as Trump's commitment to election security?
     
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    Good questions.

    "This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won," President Donald Trump.

    Trump is a fool. That is why Putin picked him over the other 18 candidates.
     
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    Former special counsel Robert Mueller’s testimony before Congress on Wednesday made clear that one political party is actively subverting attempts to protect our democracy.

    Hours after Mueller testified about foreign election interference before the House Intelligence Committee on Wednesday afternoon, the Republican-controlled Senate moved to block four separate bills to defend the U.S. democratic process.

    "Over the course of my career, I've seen a number of challenges to our democracy," Mueller said in his opening remarks. "The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious. As I said on May 29, this deserves the attention of every American."


    https://www.salon.com/2019/07/26/mu...r-republicans-are-a-national-security-threat/

    The Republicans do nothing. Why?

    "There was no defense to this ridiculous hoax, this witch hunt, that's been going on for a long time, pretty much from the time I came down on the escalator with our first lady," Trump said after Mueller's testimony.

    Putin is very proud of Trump's performance.
     
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    Obama:
    “There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said.

    “There’s no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time,” he continued. “And so, I‘d advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.”
     
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    Trump and his followers care. They didn't care in 2016. and they don't care now. They know Russia will most likely help Trump win again, and that's all that matters to them. They are more than happy to sacrifice the national security of the US to get that win.
     
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    Link?

    Even if this is true, and I suspect it is, we are not dealing with rigging the votes. We are dealing with another massive campaign similar to 2016 in which a foreign country decides who our next President is and the creation of chaos within our government and the creation of a do-nothing government friendly to communist dictators like Putin, Kim, and Xi.

    Much like we have now.

    Obama was right. To rig the vote is nearly impossible. The vote is supervised by 50 different states.
     
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    Of course. They think nothing of Trump's friendship with Putin and Xi, and his love affair with Kim Jong Un. They think Trump is the Second Coming. They think that because they avoid Trump, what he says and what he does.

    Now that is weird. It might be an intelligence thing. I don't know.
     
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    Sounds like a lot of unhinged lefties are already preparing their excuses for losing in 2020.
    Let's all demand election integrity.

    Election held on a two day weekend.
    Polls open 24 hrs
    No early voting
    Machine counted ballots with paper ballot backup.
    Photo ID mandatory
     
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    You must be a racist.
     
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    You are conflating two different things to try and convince people of one ot he things. One is Trump campaign collusion with Russia to effect the election which is a hoax and what Trump called a hoax. The other is Russian attempts to hack our systems to disrupt our election. This is not a hoax and AFAIK Trump's administration is doing counterintelligence to combat it, unlike Obama who halted that effort in 2016.
     
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    ….inaccurate....
     
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    Aren't Democrats the ones blocking voter ID laws, trying to claim there's "nothing to worry about" ?

    Why are Democrats far more concerned with a legal voter seeing a Russian election ad on Facebook than someone who's not supposed to be voting casting a vote in the election?
     
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    What is inaccurate???
     
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    Liberals are against voter ID yet claim Russia elected Trump. Maybe liberals would be for a law requiring Russia to register and show an ID before they vote in our elections. Had Russia actually helped Hillary become president you would hear from the liberals how secure our elections are.
     
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    While the Democrats once again play theater, the Barr run DOJ is actually investigating the real Russian disinformation.

    YOUR Special Counsel team of bias and dishonest Democrats totally failed to look at the dossier and Fushion GPS. Where Russians were actually paid by the DNC for their assistance.

    They also totally failed to look at the Russian team that blackmailed the Italian intelligence services into trying to set up Papadopoulis.

    Why?

    Because it was actually Obama that cut a back door deal with Putin through the Italian Koch-Glitsch office run by Russians.

    Why?

    To avoid the Crimea sanctions. Yep, Obama talked out of one side of his mouth while helping Putin with pipeline transfer equipment that was sent to the Crimea.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalia-natasha-cherenkova-7076618

    And this is the Russian who made the actual transfer...

    https://it.linkedin.com/in/romanovaolena?trk=public_profile_browsemap_mini-profile_title

    Yep, the "R" stands for Romanova.
     
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    :sleepy: Fact check. Mueller may find himself in front of a federal judge over his utterance of "sweeping systematic Russian" election interference. Judge Friedrich put a gag order on team Mueller in May. When Concord / IRA challenged team Mueller's phony allegations of Kremlin involvement, judge Friedrich ordered Mueller to present his evidence for courts review. Mueller submitted the unredacted Crowdstrike analysis to the court for review. The court determined the analysis was pure garbage, and forbade any utterance of the Crowdstrike Kremlin conspiracy theory. In court, or in the media. Besides, how does anyone prevent DNC idiots from giving out their passwords? What will Facebook do, make users prove citizenship, issue online voter ID's? Remember that blue states got courts injunctions to prevent forensic examination? :roll:
     
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    #17 has it backwards: the DOJ has failed to find anything on "investigate the investigators," with Moscow Mitch McConnell has been forced into the open.

    Mueller will never, despite #18's fervid hopes, be in front of a judge for anything other than commendation for the good work he did as SC.
     
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    That you are dismissive of facts indicates further attention or discussion is pointless and mere frustration creation...I'll pass. That you then play with unfounded conspiracy fabrication simply solidifies my perception.

    Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    https://www.realclearinvestigations...ndercuts_its_core_russia_meddling_claims.html
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-11/judge-shreds-mueller-evidence-kremlin-meddling
    https://www.businessinsider.com/how...commission-request-release-voter-data-2017-10
     
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    A. K. A. Im running away.
     
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    True...I do tend to avoid discussions with these types on the forum. If you wish to call it "Running Away" then do so....I simply don't much care as my persona here can easily take your attempted belittlement.
     
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    A partisan bill designed to fail is what dems planned so they could rile the useful idiots.
     
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    https://www.sos.ca.gov/administrati...ornia-secretary-state-about-russian-scanning/ DNC denials ... like yours isn't uncommon. Blue states fought to prevent federal agencies from examining registries, and servers. They won, American voters lost. Blue states hired NGO cyber security firms. Good luck with that, and the phony narratives.
     
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