Despite threat, Republicans block election security bills

I have waited, living my hopes
Watching you wander and tighten the rope
Someday perhaps, the truth of light
Would burn off the haze removing the fight
Yet here as I sit and type what I do
You force my acceptance that hope in untrue
It seems we are different in seeing what's real
In tasting the truth and in what we feel
Your purposeful blinders Trumping the truth
I worry for country, I worry for youth
A patriots hat you wear on your sleeve
Ignorance is no excuse to deceive
I no longer hope you might understand
I only can hope for the safety of land.

 

The answer is in POST #5 and yet the flames of leftist hypocrisy RAGE ON

 

oh, we care, absolutely we do... we've been waiting patiently, for the arrest & charge of the actual perpertraitors, hillary & obama...

 

Only Trumpers think that Obama and Hilary were behing anythijng. The CIA, FBI, and military intelligence all say it was the Russians. I'm pretty sure they are more about it than Trump.

Hell, Trump gave away state secrets to the Russians because he wanted o brag about knowing them. The guy knows jack **** about anything even remoted related to his job.

 

Attempted belittlement? Wow.

 

Question, how many votes were actually changed in 2016?

If none why do we need to change to an equally vulnerable paper ballots if no votes were changed?

 

I lost an election to become the board president of Bay East Association of Realtors to paper ballots that had been rigged.

 

And that's what the house Democrats safe act proposes to change to paper ballots, even though to my knowledge the votes were not changed

 

More wishful thinking. Trump may not even make it to November 2020. For the good of his party, he should step down. If he runs, the Republicans will lose a lot in Congress, governorships, and state houses; obviously the White House.

"For the good of his party, he should step down." Which is exactly the reason Trump won't resign. Like always, he will double down and triple down on his failures, costing the GOP a lot. There are times I think Trump set out to destroy the GOP for some reason. In any case, he is doing a fine job of it with the help of his lapdogs in Congress.

 

The problem is these bills centralize/federalize authority over elections, which is problematic in two ways.

First of all, it undermines the autonomy of state level governance. Im sure some of you see this as a benefit, but theres still many in this nation who value more localized authority, and thats the primary reason these bills are being opposed. Localized authority is more free than centralized authority, and these bills centralize authority, making us less free. This is the 2019 version of The Patriot Act- sacrificing our long held values of liberty for promises of security.

Additionally, as it is now, each election would have to be 'tampered with' individually, limiting the effectiveness of any single operation. By federalizing and standardizing elections, we essentially turn 50 elections into 1 election, making any successful tampering vastly more effective.

 

I think the reason he doesn't step down is that he knows he's going directly from his resignation speech to prison. . He couldn't care less about the good of his Party. He only cares about one thing: himself.

He'll take advantage of any opportunity whatsoever to get re-elected. And Russia intervening in our elections is one of the things he's counting on.

 

You do realize that there is already a thread about this right? And you also realize that both Bill's were loaded with a couple poison pills to make sure they wouldnt pass?

 

My only response,

 

Democrats major in political theatre and deception. Even after failing in their coup attempt, they haven't given up. One hoax after another. Don't you get tired of lowering the level of discourse in the country to a level we would expect in a banana republic?

 

Trump’s approval among Republicans has generally held in the mid-to-high 80s, which qualify as robust. His approval rating among democrats this year has been as high as 12%. Factor in the silent majority and he's going to win by a landslide in 2020. Yeah, the democrats wish he would step down to give them a chance at winning.

 

When you are about to lose another election, your argument starts like this,
https://cdn.mrctv.org/videos/28614/28614-480p.mp4

 

No, they do not. Your post is based on a false premise.

Under these election security bills rejected by the Republican Senate the federal government would have offered financial, advisory assistance, and warnings to the states. The states would have retained complete authority over elections. Absolutely no one wants to change that.

A more likely reason Trump sycophant Mitch McConnell rejected the bipartisan bills was the statement by his master.

"There was no defense to this ridiculous hoax, this witch hunt, that's been going on for a long time, pretty much from the time I came down on the escalator with our first lady," Trump said after Mueller's testimony.

 

Here's one of them. It does a lot more than that.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2722/text

 

There is no possible way to know that. That is why Trumpets keep asking that question.

Who said votes were changed? Millions of votes were influenced by the four month, daily barrage of WikiLeaks leaks provided to Assange by the GRU, Russian army intelligence. The WikiLeaks campaign lasted from July to election day. For Trumpets to say differently is ignoring the obvious.

A false assumption.

Paper ballots are not vulnerable. They are time-consuming when computers can compute in an instant. They are a necessary backup to computer readouts in case the files have been compromised. Gee, I really thought everyone knew that.

 

The shocking thing is that Republicans know that Russia is involving itself in our next election already (and again) and they don't care because they think it will help them win.

SHameful

 

Are you kidding me? I'm not going to wade through that file. You wade through the file.

Just tell me what you are talking about.

"Under these election security bills rejected by the Republican Senate the federal government would have offered financial, advisory assistance, and warnings to the states. The states would have retained complete authority over elections. Absolutely no one wants to change that."

I stand by that statement. If you disagree, be specific in telling me why.

 

Exactly, and lapdog McConnell, the worst Senate Majority Leader in memory -- and that is saying something -- has been given his marching orders by his boss, Trump.

McConnell is supposed to provide oversight. Instead, he acts like Trump's employee.

 

Based on what you claim, suppose Russia likes the dem candidate better than Trump. And then if a democrat is elected president will you appoint a special council to investigate, spend $25 million, hold hearings, issue subpoenas, demand the president's financial records, indict Russian companies, claim the president colluded with Russia, say the dem president is not our real president, call for impeachment and threaten to leave the USA?.

 

Thats a whole lot of wrong in one post.... I bought up votes being changed because that'd be the only reason to need to change the ballots. Paper ballots are definitely open to fraud. Also if your so concerned about fraud how could you be against voter ID laws

 

If the Russians all of a sudden decided they like Dems rather than Trump YOU would do an immediate 180.

I would not

We need to STOP Russians from exerting influence in our elections regardless of WHO they support