Active Shooter Situation In El Paso, TX, Police Have 'Reports Of Multiple Shooters'

The democrats want to remove guns while luring the dregs of the planet in through our southern border by the millions.

 

If the manifesto is really his or even if not his but he just swallowed it hook line and sinker I have to see it as political. He drove 8-9 hours from the Dallas area to the border for reasons other than the Marty Robbins song " The West Texas Town of el Paso"

I am a gun owner and I do not want my 2nd amendment taken away from me. BUT I am not a NRA member any more so I can agree with background checks and sane restrictions without being beaten by Wayne laPierre....

Seriously do not use terms such as "weapons of mass domestic destruction" because that is not a real thing. If you are going to argue against guns learns something about them because there are crazy gun owners not the sane ones such as I will use your lack of gun knowledge against you.

I once had a liberal female neighbor who yelled at me when she found out that I was retired from the USAF. She wanted to know why "you guys" named "your" planes after predators. F16 Falcon and F15 Eagle....I asked her if she really thought that the F16 Petunia Flower and the F15 Pink Rose Bud would scare the Russians? or Iraqis or the Iranians??

 

What evidence do we have to prove or disprove this argument? Australia no guns vs Wild West were everyone had guns. And people aren’t robbing people because of guns, guns have been around along time. It’s just the working class aren’t making enough money to actually have things that a robber wants steal. But a meth head anything goes.

 

Of course it is the guns. They deliver. Mass shootings have been regular in the USA for a very long time. Google 'gun violence archive USA.'

 

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Do not worry yourself about my intellectual curiosity it is very well developed. Your post did not sound like a question it sounded like conspiracy theory. I live 18 minutes down the highway from Sandy Hook and we in Connecticut do not take "questions" about 20 dead first graders as conspiracy folder. If I mistook your post as conspiracy I am sorry but that is how it sounded to me.

 

Yes and no.

On the one hand it would save a lot of money, but I for one would prefer a quick bullet than the rest of my natural life in a supermax padded box with 1 hour of exercise per day.

Maybe combine the two. Ten years prison then execution.

 

So, the boogie man does not come to your House because he reckons you have a bigger boogieman under your pillow. On that basis, there'd never be any home burglaries in the USA. I'll bet there are.

 

There is definitely moral equivalence between certain factions of both parties.

Disdain for the "deserving poor" rural whites is just as morally repugnant as disdain for the "deserving poor" urban blacks.

If you don't think Joe Biden is just as awful as Donald Trump, you haven't been paying attention. Joe Biden's record is similar to a bad republican. "Tough-on-crime" American politicians during the '80s and '90s instituted the state apparatus which were key in oppressing African-Americans, and Joe Biden was one of the leaders in that movement.

Abso-****ing-lutely, and that's my point. The Democratic Party has an opportunity to peel off at least some of my community, but rhetoric like that we're seeing from Dubya really does make that much more difficult.

 

How many guns did Obama confiscate? He must have missed mine since my collection grew during the Obama years. In Parkland there was one cop who failed to do his job.

 

You don't trust Americans to elect a Government which will not attack and slaughter its citizens. Is that it?

 

Attacked with guns?

 

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You must care, because I sure didn't quote you.

I made a simple point and again it was attacked by the mindless right to go down the endless tangents they love.

 

You pointed out 3 states, not THE 3 states as most states show the same density. The density the map shows in pale yellow (the most prevalent color) varies from 0.1 to over 7% so it's not as telling as you imply.

When you started this exchange, it was based on "what you noticed". My reply is based on the same, only I have daily experience.

What happened in my area was that lots of South and Central Americans came here after Hurricane Katrina, during the recovery and building boom after. A lot of them never left. You really can't go to a gas station or grocery store without coming across some of the Spanish speakers. I couldn't put a number on it, but it certainly would be on the higher end of that pale yellow range.

Anecdotal? Yes, but very true nonetheless.

 

Like I said, the enlightened among us know that "simple points" are stated to serve a purpose. No sense in pretending you're not doing exactly what I say you are, it's transparent.

 

You’d be insane to break into a house where I live. More than likely you’d be killed by the home owner. Go to California where the home owner isn’t allowed to be armed and if you slipped on a banana peel in while robbing that house you could sue the home owner.

 

Huh????? You are telling me that the El Paso Walmart victims were not mown down by a weapon of mass domestic destruction? Come on. It is self evident they were. Call a spade a spade. Stop shirking on the obvious. Poeple are being slaughered week in and week out because of 2A and bloody guns.

 

Lying???????
The dems are fighting closing the border every chance they get while luring illegals here with freebie programs. There's only two possible reasons for this. They're either very stupid or they're corrupt as hell planning to use them to steal all elections going forward.

Either way, why would you vote for them?

 

I wouldn't paint with too broad a brush, though you do have a point. Going by the presidential debates, there's quite a struggle in the party about some of these extreme positions. What's obvious from that is unless some semblance of sanity is restored in that party that Trump is a shoe-in in 2020.

 

Factors to consider:

Promotion of and desensitization to violence in movies, TV, video games, rap music and the like. Case in point. The John Wick movies.

Impact of drugs. Widespread use of psychiatric drugs and widespread (and legal) use marijuana that has been bred to be far more potent that the marijuana of the 60s and 70s.

Lack of sex. I think many of these young shooters are virgins that are having a sort of white out. Don't know what the dating scene currently is like for a 21 year old, but there appears to be some sort of a problem. Maybe the estrogen like compounds in our food/water are the problem. Maybe the widespread availability of Internet porn causes an inability to have real relationships.

Punishment is disassociated from crime in the US. The electric chair, hanging, etc. were at one time deterrents. Now we want to rehabilitate the criminal.

Decline in religious beliefs. (This comment is not intended to promote religion, but religion does provide a moral framework.)

And last but not least the Internet allows people with mental health issues to be agitated and trolled. We certainly see a fair share of trolling in this forum

 

I guess things have changed since I was making a visit with my Wife to her Sister and Family in El Centro, back in the early 80s. One of Her Nephews, a nut case...a genuine absolute teenage nutter, pulled out some sort automatic weapon from his cupboard, went out the back yard and sprayed bullets at random over an empty horizon.

I'd be interested in seeing links where there are relevant comparisons between the two States, including of course your one bridge too far with banana burglar victims successfully suing the home owner.

 

Depends on the faction. Overall, though, the Democrats are a mainstream political party. They don't worship anyone. They're all about policies, they don't really care who enacts them. The GOP has completely gone off the deep end with Trump. It's a full-on cult. I've never seen anything like it in my life time.

There is definitely a strain of that. However, we've reached the point where it's so obvious that Trump is stoking racial fears and the violence now is so clearly a reaction to the President's rhetoric, that self-identified Trump supporters are either bat-**** delusional about what their party's become, or they're OK with the racism. Either way, I have nothing in common with them and nothing I say will convince them of anything. They've fully drank the koolaid. They have to wake themselves up.

I personally don't like Biden. I'm just saying the Democrats remain a very conventional political party who currently like a very conventional political candidate (Biden). There is nothing that even remotely resembles the cult-of-personality worship that has taken hold of the GOP. That is a dangerous road for a political party to go down. Has it ever turned out well?

Maybe. Some of this stuff really needs to be called out, and I think will be in the coming days. This is bad.

 

Statistically in areas where there's a serious drug problem, crime is through the roof. In california for example, cars are constantly broken into that park within a few miles of tent cities. Crime is so prevalent in fact, the police don't even bother to investigate.

Right now they go for easy or soft targets bc they don't want to take a chance on getting shot. Guaranteed if guns are removed, home invasions will go through the roof.

 

They're both mainstream. This would be a lot easier if they weren't. A lot of Americans are racist, and my community disproportionately. It's been this way for a long time.

Absolute nonsense. They're all about decorum and pretty rhetoric. That's why Donald Trump is so abhorrent to them, even though he's nowhere near as bad as, say, GWB, or even Bill Clinton. He's harder to ignore, and makes them have to care about actual problems.

The Democrats are a trash party. They've been better than the Republicans for the past 50 years, but they're still trash.

They've always been okay with the racism. Racism has been at the center of Republican politics since Reagan, or you could argue Goldwater.

You're wrong, because plenty of us have been convinced.

It's very bad. Going back to about 2015 I started to look at demographics in the Southwest (where I live) and see potential catastrophe. If you go back a few years preventing or reducing this kind of violence has been at the center of my political praxis. Souring relations between whites and latinos in the American Southwest really is the most important sociological event happening in North America.

I do think this is going to get worse. A right-wing terrorist insurgency in the Southwest is essentially the worst-case scenario, and it's not unlikely.