Multiple people reportedly shot in Dayton, Ohio

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    To change the second amendment would require thirty eight states getting together to call for a constitutional convention.
     
  2. Xenamnes

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    How does public safety benefit from concepts such as firearms registration, or licenses for legal firearms ownership? The united state supreme court has already ruled that prohibited individuals do not have to abide by such requirements, as it violates their rights against self-incrimination, meaning such requirements can only apply to those who are least likely to commit harm to others, based on the fact that they are law-abiding individuals.

    That matter aside, how could such requirements serve to benefit public safety, when a registered and licensed firearm can be used for the purpose of committing a murder, just as easily as an illegally possessed firearm. And unless the firearm is left behind at the scene of a crime, there is no way of identifying which registered firearm was used in the commission of any particular killing.
     
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    The LW is blaming Trump, if you wanted to be a jerk you could just as easily say it was open border Democrats that triggered the El Paso perp.
     
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  5. Egoboy

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    Best of luck determining exactly what that is... If people are told they should oppose something they truly know little about, they will....
     
  6. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure why you think an antifa murderer keeping rape and kill lists is funny.

    Can you clarify?
     
  7. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not sure why you'd classify this kid as Antifa... even the Breitbart you posted didn't make that leap...

    I mean I KNOW why you do it, but usually you present a little more than just pulling it out of thin air...
     
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    You should like the NRA. They've acquiesced to essentially everything you've ever asked for. FFS they asked for the bumpstock ban ****ery trump pulled.
     
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    Can you Gurantee it will prevent one? All ears or just another bs post by ego?
     
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    Thanks for being honest and if that's the case I'll let them take my 2nd amendment rights away when they ban trucks to prevents them running over 30 people on a busy street hell their banned in Chitown yet they kill hundreds a year, seems to me not being able to get guns is not answer for law abiding citizens.
     
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    Nope... Can't guarantee a thing....

    But again, how would YOU be negatively affected if assault weapons were made illegal, and/or other common sense actions were implemented??

    Failing to act because there are no guarantees in the future is just rampantly stupid, when you weigh the potential good vs the eliminated bad...
     
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    By legally owning the firearms that would be targeted by such legislation, and thus deprived of private property without just compensation, under threat of legal violence for failing to comply.
     
  13. Egoboy

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    Not remotely good enough...

    And I think any realistic gun control program would include a period for a buyback program...

    And, LOL at the phrase "legal violence".... I think you are searching (desperately) for "legal action"
     
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    We fail to do anything substantial to encourage 2 parent families even though the statistics show how detrimental single parent households are to childhood development and in the future the society as a whole
     
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    Well, while I think that premise is mostly crap (not completely, but mostly), why don't you pop some of those statistics our way??

    And I completely LOL at the thought of governmental social engineering of relationships and/or marriage... These people cannot even agree to patch bridges and pave roads...
     
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    Ok

    Once largely limited to poor women and minorities, single motherhood is now becoming the new “norm”.

    This prevalence is due in part to the growing trend of children born outside marriage — a societal trend that was virtually unheard of decades ago.

    About 4 out 10 children were born to unwed mothers.1 Nearly two-thirds were born to mothers under the age of 30.2

    Today 1 in 4 children under the age of 18 — a total of about 16.4 million — are being raised without a father.

    https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/

    Children from single-parent families are more likely to have behavioral problems because they tend to lack economic security and adequate time with parents.

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=167327


    Children living in female-headed families with no spouse present have a poverty rate of 45.8 percent, over four times the rate of children in married-couple families (9.5 percent).8) This modern form of family disintegration – or more accurately non-formation – has its consequences for criminal behavior. The growth in crime is paralleled by the growth in families abandoned by fathers.9)

    States with a lower percentage of single-parent families, on average, will have lower rates of juvenile crime. State-by-state analysis indicates that, in general, a 10 percent increase in the number of children living in single-parent homes (including divorces) accompanies a 17 percent increase in juvenile crime.10) On the contrary, children of intact married families are the least likely to engage in serious violent delinquency compared to children of single-mother, single-father, and mother-stepfather families.11)

    Along with the increased probability of family poverty and heightened risk of delinquency, a father's absence is associated with a host of other social problems. The three most prominent effects are lower intellectual development, higher levels of illegitimate parenting in the teenage years, and higher levels of welfare dependency.12) According to a 1990 report from the Department of Justice, more often than not, missing and “throwaway” children come from single-parent families, families with step parents, and cohabiting-adult families.

    http://marripedia.org/effects_of_fatherless_families_on_crime_rates

    Also as far as government not fixing holes so they can't fix this, what the government needs to do is stop incentiving parents to look at children as commodities to be won as lost through family courts.
     
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    Children from broken homes 'nine times more likely to commit crimes'
    Children from broken homes are nine times more likely to commit crimes than those from stable families, Iain Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions Secretary, said.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/po...-nine-times-more-likely-to-commit-crimes.html
     
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    Agree.

    Interestingly even in nature, when mammals are raised without a male presence, they tend to become quite aggressive.

    http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae/in-the-absence-of-fathers-a-story-of-elephants-and-men/

    https://www.bbcearth.com/blog/?article=teenage-elephants-need-a-father-figure
     
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    So you are in support of private citizens being deprived of their legal property, without compensation or the legal ability to contest the deprivation in a court of law, and do not believe repercussions from the government for noncompliance amounts of legal violence.

    Good to know.
     
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    It's a huge issue and one that isn't talked about truthfully. When we talk about single parent households it's to glorify the mother's for how hard they work and never about the reality of the situation for the children statistically speaking.

    As far as the effects to children I believe an absent parent tends to leave children feeling as if they've been shunned and not gotten enough attention and that carries onto adult hood with them doing crazy thing in order to get attention. Males doing all the things that many would deem toxic to show off and females doing anything to get attention and being more likely to cheat as a consequence
     
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    Our government was set up so that the majority can not usurp the bill of rights.
     
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    Its enormously destructive.

    Single motherhood is all but a guarantee for poverty, less time with either parent spending time with kids etc.
     
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    You are correct. Or I think they can vote to repeal it without a constitutional convention.
     
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    Only time would tell if that theory is correct.
     
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    The 2nd ammendment is part of the Bill of Rights.

    If 2/3's of states ratify-it would be usurped.

    And democrats really want to do it.
     

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