El Paso's Latino community lashes out at Donald Trump after mass shooting leaves 22 dead

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    So what do you find racist about that quote?
     
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    They'll be fine......Law enforcement will be there...The whole visit is a pathetic stunt....
     
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    Sorry sport until you answer the questions I originally asked you this isn't a one way conversation. Now you can run away or answer how Trump is a racist by what you claimed or not. Your choice.
     
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    I’m trying to understand how you define racism.
     
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    Is invader the new "racist" term we're fishing for?
     
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    I don't blame those who blame Trump any more than I blame those who blame guns. The loss of human life is devastating and no one really knows what to blame. Some blame video games, movies, lack of religion, parenting, ignoring red flags, guns, bats, etc.
     
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    No you are trying to run away from your original question. I've already answered 2 of yours now either answer my first question to you or do what I already know you are going to do.
     
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    No one cheered the shooter on, you're inventing things to help your argument.
     
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    El Paso's Latino community lashes out at Donald Trump after mass shooting leaves 22 dead.

    He has been blamed for crazier things than this. Perhaps instead of banning firearms, we should ban politics.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

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    The invasion rhetoric seeks to demonize Latino immigrants and paint them as the enemy of America. Just like his send them back BS suggested that American born members of congress aren’t fully American.
     
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    I know, to righties he’d have to come out in a Klan hood and use racial slurs, but even then you’d still be here talking about Robert Byrd or LBJ. Jesus Reagan called Africans monkeys and no righties would even call that racist lol
     
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    Seriously, do you want my opinion or the "right-wingers" :)
    My argument is simple. We as a sovereign nation should control immigration to this country, just like every other country in the world does.

    Absolutely. Probably more so, because Canada has the means to prevent it.
     
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    Buddy, the conversation between me and you began when you responded to a post I made talking about right-wingers.

    If you're not talking about right-wingers, you've lost the thread of this conversation.

    Okay. So what if we controlled it in such a manner that Latin American immigration into the US actually increased. How would you respond, and how would right-wingers respond?

    Absolutely false, and you know it. The concern, going back to Pat Buchanan, is that we're allowing the formation of a country within a country. Canadians would be difficult to pick out from Americans.
     
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    How you and your team have denigrated the word racism! You all have seriously watered down a word that many Americans had to truly go through. Now it's used as a pejorative to slander or attack ones character.
     
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    Nothing is racist to righties unless it offends white people.
     
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    And the only people who can be racist from a lefty perspective, is republicans. And ironically, when democrats disagree with a black conservative, first thing implied, they are an Uncle Tom.. Hmm....
     
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    Dems can be racist and I’ve never called anyone an Uncle Tom.
     
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    ROFL! You refuse to actually read the Murderer's Manifesto titled, "Inconvenient Truth". Yet, here you are talking about it.
     
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    “The environment is getting worse by the year,” the manifesto reads. “Most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.” https://www.huffpost.com/entry/el-p...BT7jBRgh0c9hQDHH804JgQ2JfUjUMnZ8rELVbmcK3bp_Q

    You mean he was a "liberal, by any means necessary," Eco nut?
     
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    I just corrected your statement to include the word illegal, because to most of us that distinction is noteworthy. That is what Trump was referring to, to exclude it is dishonest. It changes the meaning of what the president was saying.

    This was the question being posed:
    "What language incendiary language did the perp adopt that was the president?"

    We all know the rhetoric you are referencing. And we know what he meant. And we know he has many times welcomed legal immigration.

    Against, I believe we need to decrease immigration. Although I do have a friend in Belize I wish could come here.

    I don't think so. If Canada rounded up all their poor and sent them across the border, no one would be saying "oh goody goody more white people!"
     
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    No, you're absolutely wrong. Donald Trump doesn't just want them to be legal, he wants them to not be from "shithole countries." He wants them from Norway, not Mexico.

    That's why I didn't use the word "illegal," because it's a rhetorical motte.

    If you're a racist who doesn't want a bunch of Latinos in our country and it just so happens that our legal immigration laws are pretty stringent, retreating to anti-illegal rhetoric as a motte is a rhetorically strategic move. That's precisely what they've done.

    No, most people just wouldn't care.
     
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    I don't think that word means what you think it does.
     
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    Yeah, it's crazy. But on the bright side, at least they aren't blaming the second amendment. Man these leftists just go from wrong to wrong. No wonder they're so unsettled.
     

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