White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Mac-7

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    Today you only want ak-47s and AR-15s

    But when that changes nothing you will be back wanting more
     
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    I sometimes think the reason those that read these books and fail to grasp the brilliant revelations is because books reach deeper than a mirror—they don’t have the courage to own the reflection that they see, some because of shame, others because of fear. However, the independent mind recognizes the truth, and if necessary, corrects his thinking and actions to integrate the new knowledge he has learned into the fabric of his being.
     
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    No magic elixir, just a fundamental truth--capitalism is Man’s only protection against tyranny, not Nationalism.
     
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    ..Be afraid, be afraid, be afraid,,,the gun collector is coming! So answer the question why do you want these guns in the hands of everyone? There is not one person who wants to take away your hunting rifle or your handgun. Are you afraid that they are going to ban cars also because they regulate them? Oh, if only you cared as much about the dead people as you do about the A.R. 15’s this country would be better and other countries wouldn’t be a warning their citizens not to come here
     
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    Please, ma'm, don't give the government any ideas now! :laughing:

    I find it laughable that people who could not properly name an AR15 if it was shoved in their faces are so obsessed with the AR15.

    The only countries that have warned their citizens about coming to the US are Mexico and, I think, Guatemala? It is especially laughable that a nation like Mexico where the drug cartels own the entire State and where people have their heads chopped off with chainsaws on a daily basis are warning their citizens from visiting the country they all are so desperate of fleeing to. :laughing:
     
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    What Feminists, Communists, Nationalists and other Big Gov Collectivists who obsess over "oppression" fail to understand is that the opposite of 'oppression' is 'competition'.

    "Muh, muh, Caucasians!" is not the rhetoric that will defeat the perceived "oppression of Whites", it is one that will only increase it.
     
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    They are feeding of off each others hatred. Reminds me a Star Trek episode in which a life force that feeds of off fear and hatred invades the Enterprise, only it's real, sadly.
     
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    I can only speak for honest, rational law-abiding citizens like myself

    Taking my guns away will not make you safer
     
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    But selling assault weapons to the mentally deranged will create more carnage.

    However, banning assault weapons would not have stop the Christchurch and El Paso racists; their battle is ideological not psychological. They would find a way, but it would have made it harder, and maybe that's enough.
     
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    How do you plan to rid them? By signing a paper? That is a very cute thought. But, it is not how it works in reality. I think it would be more reasonable to rid the gun free zones.

    America has some serious social problems. I do not really see any light in the dark tunnel and I am prepared to put on my foil hat and join the crowd that are speaking of an emerging Civil War. Sadly.
     
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    Allowing mentally deranged people to roam around freely is the threat

    Not my guns
     
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    Still, it would be harder for the nut-jobs, yes?

    BTW: If you need your weapon to protect you from a tyrannical government, I’d advise against it. Just how is an AK-47 going to stop a missile firing drone?
     
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    "White Nationalism" is just a pathetic attempt to rebrand white supremacists.

    If it was just about nationalism, there would be no reason to put "white" in front of it.
     
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    I dont know how to “get rid” of every crazy person in America

    Or even a sizable number of them

    The future does indeed look dark
     
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    Not at all because automobiles can kill just as many people just as quickly as guns could
     
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    "The future does indeed look dark," is the rabbit hole the mentally disturbed go down.

    The future is a mixed bag of good, bad, evil and greatness. Always has been. But the reality is that violent crime is down since Reagan's days. We haven't had a world war in over 70 years. The average lifestyle in this country is pretty good.
    The problem is that the bad stuff gets blown way out of proportion to it's actual impact on the world by the crazy people on the internet - now every duffus in the land has a megaphone.
     
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    Valid point, and I'd like to know what group is branding itself as being white nationalist. It's an oxymoronic characterization, like anarcho-socialism is. I've seen Farrakhans nation of islam referred to as a black nationalist group, but Farrakhan's a seperatist. I imagine that would be the same ideology white nationalists subscribe to.
     
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    If I was an Amercan I would be genuinely worried.

    There is an growing "underclass" of psychotic loners who are easily manipulated by the ongoing political polarisation that is riled up even more by the media and on top of this, there is a never-ending debate about "racism this" and "sexism that". We are seeing similar trends all throughout the West, but it is clearer and happening more rapidly in the USA.

    There is alot of tension and hate boiling and there are, since long, other social issues such as a failing public school system, high divorce rates and disappearing communities, churches and neighbourhood friendships -- In nearly all of the massacres, we have had perpetrators who openly talked about their thoughts on the Internet and sometimes even with friends and in most school shootings, teachers, counsellors and parents have failed to pick up obvious signals of severe bullying and serious mental illness.

    Add to this that there is also an increasing distrust for the police, where the media keeps pouring more and more gasoline to the fire.

    in my opinion, "America" is a failure from the very beginning -- There are vast cultural differences between North and South and between West and East. There is also vast differences between the Midwest and the other parts of the nation. It is a strange and rather bizarre construction with no real thing to unite the people, at least not since the Constitution is becoming increasingly irrelevant since the government keeps expanding in size. Sh*t has now finally hit the fan.

    There are alot of "Averege Joe", middle-class Americans who own guns and who take their responsibility. If the governemnt was to be targetting these Americans and go after their guns "in the name of saftey", and the spiral described above keeps accelerating, the outcome will be a bloody one.

    And just think what would happen if, God forbid, someone tried to assasinate the President. With all the civil and political unrest going on, it would not result in a slow, easy and peacful shift as of the one that followed the murder of JFK. I don't know. From what I can see from the other side of the Atlantic, things look very dark.
     
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    Better straighten me out on the semantics. To me white nationalism describes white people who love their country. White supremacism seems to mean white people who think they are better than everybody else. I would say the latter is racist. How is the former so?
     
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    Ok. But a little harder to do, I would image. It's not like you can just drive through the doors of a Wal-Mart and start running people over. But you're right, the hardcore racist, or the Right-Wing fascist, or the Left-Wing Socialist, or the totally nihilistic anarchist wouldn't let anything as irrelevant as the law to stop them from obtaining whatever weapon they want. Still, I hope every patriot remembers, an AK-47 is not going to stop tyranny, the principles of reason, capitalism, and individual rights will.

    Should Venezuela be Armed with Guns or Ideas? by Yaron Brook
     
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    White Nationalism--White people who love their country and want to make sure it stays White, by every and any means possible. Ah, that's racism as in: The purpose of White Nationalism is to ensure the nation works for the benefit of Whites. Hey. Call a spade a spade, right?
     
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    So you are backtracking on your original comment, "He very clearly said that some of those neo-Nazis marching in Charlottesville were some good people. I don’t see any neo-Nazis as good people?"

    You admit now that you were wrong and that he was not referring to neo-nazi's as good people?
     
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    Nationalism has never been based on skintone. Nationalism is based on an ethnos, a shared lineage with a shared mythos and a shared history, all connected by a shared culture that has been bred in a defined ecology and limited landpiece.

    For example, Poles and Ukrainians are both White, but they hate each other. Even within the same nation, people from different regions view themselves as different from one another.
     
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    If you want to unite a nation solely on the basis of skintone, you will have to try to make peace with your worst of enemies. The Progressive Communist who raises his daughter to be a boy and who has five boyfriends is a more desireble neighbour than a Conservative, quiet and hardworking Asian father of three well mannered children and wife who is a nurse because "at least the previous is White". :laughing:
     
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    I think the left is on the verge of mayhem

    If they win the next election they might calm doen a little bit

    But if trump wins all hell will break loose
     

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