10th District Court of Appeals Electoral College decision.

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  1. Abqguardian

    Abqguardian Well-Known Member

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    Name the states that Clinton won the popular vote in but didnt get the electoral votes. You can't because thats a lie.
     
  2. ECA

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    And people wonder why I've voted third party last couple elections. People's votes, in many cases, don't matter. More so in my state. My vote has never counted since Dems always win my state.
     
  3. JakeStarkey

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    We all know we vote for electors who pick the winners from the candidates.

    What is important is this: that the electors can ignore state laws controlling their choices.

    The states will appeal.
     
  4. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bullseye.
    "As of August 14, 2019, the United States Senate has confirmed 146 Article III judges nominated by President Trump, including 2 Associate Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, 43 judges for the United States Courts of Appeals, 99 judges for the United States District Courts, and 2 judges for the United States Court of International Trade.[2] There are currently 35 nominations to Article III courts awaiting Senate action, including 1 for the Courts of Appeals and 34 for the District Courts.[3] There are currently 4 vacancies on the U.S. Courts of Appeals, 97 vacancies on the U.S. District Courts, 2 vacancies on the U.S. Court of International Trade,[3]and 10 announced federal judicial vacancies that will occur before the end of Trump's first term (1 for the Courts of Appeals and 9 for District Courts"
    https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

    Thanks Harry Reid for your gift that will last a couple of generations.
    Double thanks to Mitch McConnell the genius behind all these confirmations.
     
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  5. Socratica

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    Everyone wants their vote to go to the perceived winner. Democrats want their EC votes to go to the winner of the popular vote. Republicans want it to go to the winner of the state popular vote. And yet, no one can agree on who is a "winner" in these elections.
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Which states?
    Which comes first the chicken or the egg? The election as pledged electors is part of the plenary power for the state to choose the electors as they see fit.
     
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    This is false.
     
  8. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Count on that changing for the Democrats very soon.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope...

    Not a single state where Clinton won the vote and Trump got the EC votes.

    But I can name a state where Trump won the majority of the in-state votes but lost because 5,000 people voted and then didn't move into the state. That state was New Hampshire.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Totally false and a surprisingly lame claim.
     
  11. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Let's have some proof, please.

    And the NPV will take care of everyone's concerns.
     
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    Count on RBG to be replaced by a strong conservative woman.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ya right!
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  14. PrincipleInvestment

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    Lost cause ... and since the issue has previously been decided, legal scholars question why the court's time had been wasted.
     
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    Poor disillusioned democrats. ::(: No more legislating by lawsuits. (D) Sen. Whitehouse just had a complaint filed against him with the BAR Assc. for threatening the SCOTUS, and providing legal services w/o license. Nothings changed, nothings going to. 4 more years of tears.
     
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    Forcing an Elector to vote based on winner-takes-all, is totally undemocratic.

    if 43% of votes go to the losing candidate in a state, the Electors should still vote for that candidate.

    otherwise millions of votes dont count
     
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    Not likely, but if so, her replacement will either be "packed" or impeached by the Democratic Senate.
     
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    NPV is coming and it is constitutional.
     
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    Do you not understand the words themselves? Is that the problem?
     
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    Amen. And Ruthy is barely hanging on. Trump will get another pick or two . Can you imagine if that old deceitful hag clinton would have won? We would be screwed forever , i doubt we could have come back from that democrat disaster.
     
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    No, it won't. You don't have 1 election for president, you have 50 state elections the majority winner thereof whom becomes president.
    The states create the federal government, hence its the states who choose. And they do that by the votes of THEIR citizens, not the votes of citizens in other states.
     
  23. JakeStarkey

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    Not to worry, therooster. Trump will go down badly in defeat. At least eight states he won are polling blue, some by double digits, and nothing shows Trump picking up any new voters.
     
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    Each state chooses its election procedures. And if you are back to the electors, SCOTUS will throw out the 10th's affirmation, leaving the states to control the electors. Thus when a state decides the NPV is the way to go, that's that.
     
  25. Jestsayin

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    Well, if Hillary had won, I would guarantee you Merrick Garland would have sailed through the Senate and on to the Supreme Court in two weeks. He was the most conservative of all the leftie picks on the table. Had they given him a hearing before the election and he was rejected by the Senate majority, it would have gone on and on until Jan. 21 and she was inaugurated, which meant she gets the honor of picking someone of her choosing.
    Tonight before you go to sleep, thank your God for Mitch McConnell who handled that situation like a pro.
     

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