Bahamas before and after Hurricane Dorian

Code was to Cat 4, to withstand up to 156 mph. Those structures didn't withstand 185 mph which hits with approximately 41% more energy than 156 mph.

 

I heard many of the deaths were illegal Haitians.

 

Hmmm. A US cruse ship just took 1,400 Bahamian refugees to the US yesterday.

 

I was listening to that TDS radio network known as NPR yesterday.

The Democrats love what Hurricane Dorian did to the Bahamas.

What the Democrats see are tens of thousands if refugees coming to America and becoming Democrats.

 

I'm sure there are. There is also an area of Miami known as Little Haiti. It's a pretty big hood and a good place to stay away from.

 

Indeed, meanwhile the Bahamians were filming videos of sharks swimming past their unshuttered windows without so much as a drop of water (sweat aside) on them. If not for the shanty towns, this wouldn't be so bad. Think Charlie instead of Katrina, lots of property damage and scared people but low casualties and everything rebuilt in a few years. The shanty towns are what make this a disaster and that has nothing to do with the country's ability to recover from this.

 

NPR is state media. So unless the Repubs have turned on Trump... Also lol at when Repubs try to kill PBS (also state media) when they can control what PBS airs. Conservatives in America have no media savy whatsoever.

 

Each NPRstationis different.

In the L.A. area you can pick up four or more NPR stations.

KPCC is one broadcasting from Pasadena and KPFK broadcasting from the Capital of the Third World (L.A.)
is a radical Marxist NPR station.

 

And what will they do when they reach? Where will they stay?

 

Being a homeowner in the Bahamas for the past 13 years and spending a significant amount of time there, I am confident that it is a third world country. It is identified that way by its own citizenry and leadership. The large homes you see on tv are foreign owned. As are the large yachts. There is a wealthy Bahamian contingent, but that would be about less than 10% and it is 'family money'.

The government corruption is rampant. And the level of organization is very low. Bahamians know this is going to be a clusterfuck.

 

I doubt this will be close to being true
I do not doubt that there will be abundant blame about how recovery was botched
Heck, new orleans still has not recovered.... and they relocated large numbers of people
Relocation is an option the Bahamas does not have

 

Its not that easy. We experienced Hurricane Florence in North Carolina and NO one knew it would stall and hang around for 4 days dropping over 30 inches of rain. Our neighborhood experienced horrible flooding. We were not in a flood zone, and there was no mandatory evacuation placed when Flo hit our area. There are without a doubt certain times when you cannot predict the path, nor the intensity of the hurricane. Many of my neighbors lost everything. Although we did indeed have warnings, what happened was totally unexpected.

 

Where should those people live? Where should they move?

 

That makes me so sad. The fact that they have experience such loss and have to face an uphill battle. Its not a done deal in the US, I know people who are still trying to recover from Hurricane Flo that hit last year. Some were left with having to walk away from their homes, and allow the default from the bank. They did not have flood insurance (because they were NOT in a flood zone), yet they had extensive damage to their homes caused by hurricane Flo last year. Hurricane insurance would only cover damage from the roof down, not from the ground up. Most in my neighborhood experienced severe flooding. Its been almost a year later and they still have not recovered.

 

I wonder why you choose to focus exclusively on what the US does in response.

 

I think I said in another post that it was okay to post what others do, but mainly, I wanted to focus on the USA.

 

I don't know. Maybe the Brits can take them on Turks or Caicos. Maybe Nassau has room for them. TV commercials in the US asking for aid has started here. Expect lots of scams and more corruption before the shacks are rebuilt on Grand Bahama.

 

How about the British virgin isles?

 

The Bahamas are a sovereign country and a member of the UN

 

Sure, they got their independence from the Brits in 1973, sort of. So, as independent islands I guess they can take care of themselves, rely on the drug cartels or maybe the UN, Right?

 

why so negative. Bahamas are not a protectorate of any other nation.

In a catastrophe like that, everybody pitches in and helps. The US is closes, so its help will arrive first. The UK has a large naval unit in the Caribbean and it is coming and there are plenty of other nation which will help.

 

We had a lot of hurricane damage in the US too. The Bahamas depends on the US the same as Puerto Rico who is a US territory but doesn't want to be a state. We do give a lot and if we don't we get blamed. I hope the UN and Brits do help. Why aren't they there now like we are?

 

I know, I live in the US. The US sure got away with this monster turning north.
I know the US gives a lot and its people are very generous when it comes to that.
Nobody will put blame on the US, its not part of the US like PR. This is a case for the international community.
The UK will help, no worry about it, might take a bit time, because of the distance.

 

That is a risky proposition. While I feel for the Bahamians ---- very much ---- we have to be realistic. They would likely trash the cruise ships, and may be unwilling to leave. We had a problem sort of like this in Florida with the displaced Puerto Ricans. We brought them here, put them in free hotel rooms, many proceeded to trash the rooms, and then some refused to leave and even went so far as to sue to be allowed to stay for free longer.

If I were the CEO of a cruise line I wouldn't touch that Pandora's Box. Deliver aid, but that's probably it.

They can also donate money. After all, they make a lot of money off of tourism. So far I believe Norwegian, Royal Caribbean, Disney, and Carnival cruise lines have all donated $1 million each.

I respectfully disagree, and I travel often to the Bahamas. The touristy parts are nice, but venture outside of that and you will see extreme poverty ---- homes with busted out windows, nothing but old box fans in the front doorway for cooling, dirt yards, mess and dirt and old paint and mildewed rotting wood ---- and I'm not speaking of the "shanty towns" either.

I suspect much of the rebuilding will be motivated by tourism and wealthy foreigners who live (and/or travel often) to the islands. I hope the poorer locals are not entirely left behind....

The illegal Haitians are a big problem and are being blamed primarily for the looting and piracy. If even 1/2 of what I have heard is true, they are parasitic opportunist scum. Puerto Ricans took a lot of criticism for being lazy following their hurricane, but at least I didn't hear reports of looting and piracy like I'm hearing with the Haitians.

 

Again, when you CHOOSE to live near an ocean, in an area of the world where hurricanes can and do occur frequently, you must take all the possibilities into account. Ultimately, YOU are responsible for YOU. The same is true for me, although my living room is over 6,000 feet above sea level -- far from any ocean water... because this is where I CHOSE to live....

According to the rules that apply to citizens of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas, these people are free to be able to live where they wish, and, they are free to move where they wish. It's not complicated. The Bahamas enjoys its own independence, and, as such, is not a part of the United States at all....

If I were a Bahamian citizen, and my home and neighborhood were devastated, I think I would have already flown or sailed somewhere else, out of 'harm's way', and then gotten in quickly touch with my insurance company to get paid for my losses. Isn't that what you would have done...?

Anyway, it's clear that a lot of folks have no idea what "the Bahamas" actually are. So, I've provided this quickie link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bahamas .