How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

And homosexuality has been despised for the same length of time. Why should 2019 be different?

 

Mankind has gone through many periods of advance and enlightenment. A loving and committed union/marriage between 2 adults is not a perversion in my book, nor should they be despised. This notion of thinking falls in line with those religious zealots who will murder based on being homosexual.

 

Not at all. You made an assertion that marriage is objective. But reality is that is very subjective as demonstrated by the wide variety of definitions across time, culture and religion.

Regardless of your religious beliefs, and regardless of what God has said, the legal definition of marriage is currently such that same sex couples can be legally married. The law is the only thing that matters there. Every religion in the universe could claim otherwise, but for legal purposes, only the legal definition matters. And as such the statement that same sex couple can legally marry is factually true.

And right there is the bit that makes it subjective. And to be quite honest, your view means nothing to the law. Prior to SSM being made legal, many same sex couples were married in the eyes of their family, friends, and dieties. But they factually were not legally married. You can not show anything that prevents a legal status as being as it is legally defined.

Given the maleficence coming off you, it's good to know you agree.

Ah the "if they're not what I call Christian, they're not really Christian" argument.

Of course I have to dumb it down. Anyone who can't understand the simple concept that having a disorder does nothing to prevent one from following the Christ needs things simplify to his level to comprehend it.

I understood quite well. It seems your comprehension is the one lacking. We can easily grant for homosexuals to engage in activity based upon their impulses as much as we can for heterosexuals, because they occur between consenting adults. Such cannot be done with pedophiles simply because those they would want to engage with cannot consent. Consent is the very heart of the matter.

Pedophiles already have rights. Every right you have they also enjoy.

Not at all. Just following your logic to its natural conclusion based on what you are claiming. In order for pedophiles to be able to have sex with children, we have to first ignore ability to consent, and then ignore consent itself. If we do that for children, then adults also lose their ability to consent. Therefore men could just have sex with women because they want to, regardless of consent or ability to consent of women.

 

Yet, through all these periods of advance and enlightenment (so called) homosexuality has been repulsive to normal people.

 

You seem to be implying I am not normal. I could surmise the same about you not being “normal” for believing a marriage between 2 adults is repulsive (etc.) and post up links with data showing the percentages of people a la 2019 that support gay marriage has expanded from a decade ago.

 

...except for normal people who are homosexual.

 

In order to know if you're normal, we would need to know all of your fetishes. What are they?

 

So was interracial marriage despised....people evolve..but then again some remain in the past.

 

Just men!

 

Or perhaps they are devolving.

 

There are short periods of madness before the collapse of a civilization. I'll go with the last 6000 years to determine what is normal.

 

On this topic, we disagree.

 

Should you survive the death of the last such person, your memories of such sadness will have long since been obliterated by your struggle to keep your fellow survivors from clawing your eyes out.

Which it most certainly is.

Even stipulating to such a dubious claim, it doesn't militate against my assertion in the slightest, obviously.

Of course it is, to enemies of America and its founding principles. Why you would admit to such a perverted set of priorities I leave for others to speculate.

It does no such thing, obviously.

I don't suppose you can possibly imagine how validating it is to be so regarded by someone of your...caliber.

Evidently you don't know what that means, any more than you know what "objective" or "subjective" means.

Yes, so you can find fault with what I never said and pretend I said it.

Get real, you'd rather be dead.

But just easily remediable in favor of pedophiles as was the impediment to normalization of homosexuality, by your own testimony.

So did homosexuals, before the Stonewall riot. Now they have more.

Maybe pedophiles should have more too, huh?

You don't do that. You follow the logic of an apparition in your head you call yguy and find fault with that, since you can't touch mine.

Non sequitur, obviously, since the law, which you have assured us is all that matters, can be written so as to leave the consent requirement for adults, shall we say, unmolested.

 

Yes, we have so much to fear with 2-3% of the population being gay.

 

I believe they approve of sex with the lights on.
I believe they approve of sex in daylight.
I believe they approve of sex without being under the covers.
I believe they approve of sex outside marriage.
I believe the approve of oral sex.

At least in the sense, no one gets penalized for those sexual deviance's.

 

No, you'll have much more to fear with 0% of the population being able to see perversion for what it is.

 

For me, normal is a statistical concept to be determined by observation which is what I am doing here.

How do you determine what is normal?

 

While the visual of having one’s eyes clawed out by anti-gay believers is so scary, I am sorry to tell you that your clawed paw crowd is diminishing decade by decade.

A loving union/marriage between 2 consenting adults is something I support and will work to keep legal here in the US.

 

A loving and committed couple is normal. Folks who have been married for 10, 20, 30, 40 etc. years is normal.

 

They won't be doing it because they'll all be dead. People who think like you will be doing it to each other.

 

Your posts are getting more bizarre.

Gay marriage is legal in the US. Wish you all the best trying to get that overturned.

 

Slavery was legal at one time also, but things do change. My observation is that laws change, we did away with the old slavery and adopted a new one. You hear about it all the time...we have to work for a living...shouldn't everything be free? Next we will say you can marry a duck.

 

Equating marrying a duck to another human being is .....silly.
Interracial marriage at one time was also illegal.

SCOTUS made the ruling that gay marriage is legal. Your avatar suggests you or someone was/is a NA. Did you swear an oath to uphold and defend the US Constitution?

 

1315 yes, and that constitution says laws can be challenged

 

Thank you for your service.

And, as I said above, best of luck getting that overturned.