Witness in Trump-Ukraine Matter Ordered Not to Speak in Impeachment Inquiry

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  1. Josh77

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    Haha, because republican politicians did jack **** before that. You seem to think that I hold republicans in high regard. They are all ****ing retards on both sides of the aisle. Republicans blew it back then, and democrats are blowing it now. Trump has been the only one getting ANYTHING done in Washington.
     
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    But he is only right .012 % of the time.
     
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    Mafia bosses used prevent anyone from testifying against the Mafia with some very skillful, effective, and intellectual methods. The Trump gang could adopt some of their methods to obstruct testifying. Oh wait the Trump WH is obstructing the fact finding.
     
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    I’ve provided the rules of th house a number of times...is Nancy changing the rules? There needs to be a vote. Why are the dems undermining the democratic process again?
     
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    What “rule” requires a vote on an impeachment inquiry? You should read the constitution sometime.
     
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    Don't hold a vote, do everything different this time, that should go over well with only the far left.
     
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    This is going to be another Democrat faceplant

     
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    Not on this thread you haven't. No democratic process has been undermined.
     
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    This is more of Trump's propaganda trash which always shows contempt for the American People by lying to them.

    "Trump is objectively wrong; House Democrats haven’t been squandering time. In addition to their investigations, they’ve been passing legislation at a rapid clip. In all, the House has taken up 51 bills, resolutions, and suspensions since January — 49 of which they’ve passed. This includes a slate of bills to attempt to end the longest government shutdown in history, the result of a protracted fight between Trump and Congress over border wall funding.

    Ironically, over the past two weeks, the House has passed bills to address most of the issues Trump mentioned in his tweet. They recently passed a bill to lower prescription drug prices, and another one to protect preexisting conditions. The House also passed nine bills on veterans issues this week alone, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi noted at her weekly press conference. On Thursday, Democrats tried to present Trump their infrastructure plan before he walked out of their meeting."
    https://www.vox.com/2019/5/24/18637163/trump-pelosi-democrats-bills-congress
     
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    Republicans will say: It is a witch hunt by the Democrats who are obviously biased.

    Democrats will say: Obstruction is evidence that team Trump has something to hide.

    Me: I say that while there is no doubt that the Democrats are biased, that for the Republicans to point that out is a pot meets kettle moment. But I also agree with the Democrats that those who are innocent have nothing to hide. Obstruction implies that team Trump has something to hide. I say if team Trump is innocent then fully comply with the impeachment inquiry. If the Democrats try to misrepresent the evidence then call them out on it. To do anything less is to risk being perceived by a large portion of the public as hiding something which may cost the Republicans the Senate or even the Presidency come 2020. On the flip side if the Democrats fail to show that Trump has violated Federal Law, this may cost them the House and the White House come 2020.

    The stakes are high. Now I sit back in my comfortable recliner, eat popcorn and drink a good Porter or Stout and watch in fascination to see just where the chips fall.
     
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    Trump's face has already been planted up his butt. The American people no longer believe Trump or his republican co-horts. Here is a series of 9 polls that show Trump's popularity dropping. The more he blocks diplomats from testifying the worse it gets for him. He won't let his former White House attorney testify. Here's why American people are vastly smarter than Trump and his cohorts. They Know that Trump blocks testimony simply because he's terrified of the truth getting. This is a simple calculation that eludes Trump because he's a liar and a coward. Keep lying and holding back witnesses Trump.
    I stand on the side of the constitution. The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment. No one can tell the house how to do it and it can prolong the investigation part of this for as long as deemed necessary.. Trump is defying the constitution by denying witnesses and documents. The Dems have no reason to impeach because they already have the power to demand witnesses and documents.. And each time Trump prevents witnesses and documents he allows the House to come up with another article of impeachment regarding obstruction of justice. Trump is a liar and cowered. He wont allow diplomats to be questioned. he wont allow his former White House Lawyer Don McGann to testify because if the truth came out it would ruin him. The American people understand this simple calculation which is why each time he interferes with the House investigation the more the public moves against him. Over 55% believe the House should continue it's investigation. The more he blocks and covers up both documents and witnesses the more guilty he looks. . No reason to move forward with formal articles of impeachment because Trump is sitting in a stew of his own fecal matter.
     
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    The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment. No one can tell the house how to do it and it can prolong the investigation part of this for as long as deemed necessary.. Trump is defying the constitution by denying witnesses and documents. The Dems have no reason to impeach because they already have the power to demand witnesses and documents.. And each time Trump prevents witnesses and documents he allows the House to come up with another article of impeachment regarding obstruction of justice. Trump is a liar and cowered. He wont allow diplomats to be questioned. he wont allow his former White House Lawyer Don McGann to testify because if the truth came out it would ruin him. The American people understand this simple calculation which is why each time he interferes with the House investigation the more the public moves against him. Over 55% believe the House should continue it's investigation. The more he blocks and covers up both documents and witnesses the more guilty he looks. . No reason to move forward with formal articles of impeachment because Trump is sitting in a stew of his own fecal matter.
     
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    Oh here we go....obstruction.....sad. Why should anyone cooperate with an unconstitutional impeachment inquiry?
     
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    The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment. No one can tell the house how to do it and it can prolong the investigation part of this for as long as deemed necessary.. Trump is defying the constitution by denying witnesses and documents. The Dems have no reason to come up with articles of impeachment because they already have the power to demand witnesses and documents per the constitution. And each time Trump prevents witnesses and documents he allows the House to come up with another article of impeachment regarding obstruction of justice. Trump is a liar and cowered. He wont allow diplomats to be questioned. he wont allow his former White House Lawyer Don McGann to testify because if the truth came out it would ruin him. The American people understand this simple calculation which is why each time he interferes with the House investigation the more the public moves against him. Over 55% believe the House should continue it's investigation. The more he blocks and covers up both documents and witnesses the more guilty he looks. . No reason to move forward with formal articles of impeachment because Trump is sitting in a stew of his own fecal matter. Judges are speeding up court cases against Trump's defiance. Let Trump stew.
     
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    The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment. No one can tell the house how to do it and it can prolong the investigation part of this for as long as deemed necessary.. Trump is defying the constitution by denying witnesses and documents. The Dems have no reason to impeach because they already have the power to demand witnesses and documents.. And each time Trump prevents witnesses and documents he allows the House to come up with another article of impeachment regarding obstruction of justice. Trump is a liar and cowered. He wont allow diplomats to be questioned. he wont allow his former White House Lawyer Don McGann to testify because if the truth came out it would ruin him. The American people understand this simple calculation which is why each time he interferes with the House investigation the more the public moves against him. Over 55% believe the House should continue it's investigation. The more he blocks and covers up both documents and witnesses the more guilty he looks. . No reason to move forward with formal articles of impeachment because Trump is sitting in a stew of his own fecal matter.
     
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    I agree. Start impeachment and let him testify under oath.

    This huge dump we're being forced to hold in is painful. Out with it!
     
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    Despite the demands of Democrats in the House, demands not backed by a force renders the demand impotent. It is obvious that Trump has no fear of denying Congress. Yet he has many times acquiesced to court judgments against him. So let us hope that when this is taken to court, that if Trump looses that he does not deny the courts. I fear the consequences to America if that were to happen.
     
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    I don't. Trump has always backed down in numerous occasion when others stood up to him. I guess you haven't read about his policy reversals when enough people stood up to him. You also haven't read about how our Military respects the rule of law. If the Supreme Courts says that he needs to resign he will.
     
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    Why should Trump play along with what all parties know is a hoax?

    It's stupid that we keep chasing one hoax after another. What the hell is wrong with us?
     
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    I’ve already repeatedly posted it. The House votes for an official impeachment inquiry, it goes to th judicial committee for hearing, and vote is then conducted for formal articles of impeachment, the house then votes on them, and what has a majority is sent to the senate for trial.
     
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    This is quickly becoming the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Bottom line is very very simple, you have the call so if you think it's impeachable go for it. The way the dems are doing this is a farce and the country doesn't like unfair. You only want dems to be able to subpoena anyone, you do it behind close doors and then only leak what dems thinks sounds bad. It's incredible short sided and will be seen for what it is. The Dems don't want to take a vote so only they have control of what's being leaked and this will be seen as unfair by anyone that's not a political hack. If you believe in it, have the vote, have the hearings in the open, let the people see your claims.

    Face the facts, the dems screwed up by letting Schiff take the lead. He lied about Russia, he himself tried to get Ukraine dirt from a foreign government and we got the prank call. He lied about meeting with the whistleblower before the complaint. He lied about what was in the call transcript and Trump called the bluff be releasing the call to eliminate all the BS they were planning to say was on the call. We've all seen transcript, we all know Schiff met with whistleblower precomplaint, we all know they were directed to go to the biased law firm, we all know the complaint was changed to get it to Schiff's committee and all we're left with is a bunch of noise trying to prove there was different meanings to words we all read. Time to step up or shut up, yet we know the dems desperately want to run this investigation through the election cycle to gain a perceived election advantage. Trump again called your bluff, this is going to the courts and will be held up all the way to the SC. Now you either wait or have the vote to impeach. That's the only option.
     
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    It is obstruction and now it's been stated in a formal document from the White House..

    Thank you, Pat!
     

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