Ukraine President says no blackmail in conversation...

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  1. FoxHastings

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    What TF would you expect him to say? Ever hear the phrase, "follow the money"....and who he's getting it from?
     
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    And we are ready to investigate interference in the (2016) election from the Ukrainian side, if it took place

    Sounds pretty definite lol
     
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    Well there it is. Straight from the leader of Ukraine. Game over democrats.
     
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  4. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think so. The "swamp" is full of crocs! Or "crooks"?

    Donald Trump, Alone Against All

    Alone, against his opposition,
    against his administration and
    against his allies,
    Three years after his election, the House of Representatives launched an impeachment procedure against him because he is fighting against the corruption of the Clinton clan.

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    For President Trump, the impeachment proceedings brought by the House of Representatives are an attempt at a coup d’état.

    Donald Trump’s main campaign commitment to end the offensive Rumsfeld/Cebrowski military strategy and replace it with a policy of Jacksonian cooperation is met with strong internal US and external opposition from US allies.
    More than ever, the President appears alone, absolutely alone, in the face of the transatlantic political class.

    As soon as he was elected and even before the transfer of power in 2017, Donald Trump was presented as a manic-depressive narcissist, a weak and authoritarian personality, a crypto-fascist.
    As soon as he joined the White House, the press called for his physical murder and the Democratic Party accused him of being a Russian spy.

    When Donald Trump lost the mid-term (November 2018) elections to the House of Representatives, he was forced to negotiate with some of his opponents. He reached an agreement with the Pentagon, allowing certain military actions as long as they did not involve the country in a spiral, and in exchange obtained the closure of the Russian investigation.
    For eight months, he tried to stop the annihilation of the Great Middle East and preparations for the destruction of the Caribbean Basin.
    He hoped to be able to announce the realization of peace at the United Nations General Assembly. Crash! The same day, the USIP submitted its report on Syria, advising to relaunch the war.
    And, again on the same day, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, announced the opening of impeachment proceedings against him, this time in connection with his fight with the Ukrainian authorities against the corruption of the Clinton clan.

    It is therefore unlikely that Donald Trump will be able to carry out his program before the end of his mandate as the election campaign for his possible re-election begins. However, his supporters point out that he is never as good as when he is cornered.
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    It must be said that, since 11 September 2001, the office of President of the United States has been almost exclusively in the media. And, if the president does not make policy, those who do so in the shadows are not elected.


    Please, read the full article and watch the powerful video here:
    https://www.voltairenet.org/en
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    Thanks to this article by Thierry Meyssan I now understand Trump much better. Right now he is the only one you have who is willing to fight the dragons to rescue your country!
    It's a formidable job that he took on... he needs the common people's help badly.
     
  5. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

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    Well ya gotta hand it to Thierry Meyssan, his ability to reel off an unhinged anti-American rant is as consistent as the types of people who are drawn to them. You can predict both with the certainty of a sunrise.

    Of course, Thierry doesn't write stuff like this about his friend Bashir Assad. You don't bite the hand that feeds you & pats you on the head, especially in a nation where criticising the government will get you tortured to death & dumped by the side of the road.

    There are 'journalists' with less credibility than Meyssan, but they mostly operate in places like China & North Korea.
     
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  6. Silver Surfer

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    And let's not forget so called journalists who work for CNN, MSBCN, Washington Post, New York Times etc... liberal outlets which completely and utterly disgraced themselves over the last three years by spewing anti-Trump propaganda instead of objectively reporting the facts. Being brainwashed doesn't mean you are informed.
     
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  7. bigfella

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    The very worst of those journalists, along with the hacks at Fox, the Washington Times, The Spectator, anything owned by Rupert Murdoch and all the rest pumping out pro-trump propaganda, are better on their worst day than Meyssan is on his best. The man writes propaganda for Bashir Assad in a system where criticising Assad will get you dead. If you think people working in the US media are in any way equivalent then you are the brainwashed one.
     
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    The alleged "victim" say he wasn't pressured into investigating Burisma Holdings. So where is the crime? President Volodymyr Zelensky said he would investigate both Trump and Biden. Maybe someone on the left will post the statutes that apply to that? This one is strike 3 for the Democrats. Strike 1: Phony Trump, Russian Collusion. Strike 2: Attempted smear of Supreme Court Justice Bret Kavanagh. Strike 3: Trump Ukraine collusion to discredit Biden. All I can do is laugh.
     
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    :bored:

    You're about 9 HOURS LATE.

    The Subject has ALREADY been beaten to death:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ent-says-no-blackmail-in-conversation.562783/

    The Search Function can be a Useful Tool in avoiding Duplicate Threads and Redundant Topics.

    Nothing Personal, just a friendly suggestion to avoid Spamming the Forum with Duplicate Threads.:flagus:

    Carry on. :salute:
     
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    A little icing on the cake . Its not like we needed to hear him say that . We read the transcripts.
     
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  11. Professor Peabody

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    Sorry, I have to lock down my browser on this site to the point that I can't use the search function.

    MODS please ere with the other thread
     
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  12. Jazz

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    You may be a "BIG Fella", but you are still human, I hope, and can't know everything. For your information, the Mexican Press Club has awarded Thierry Meyssan the International Prize for Journalism 2017 in the category of geopolitical analysis.
    https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...ward-thierry-meyssan-the-international-prize/

    He was one of the first to speak out loud that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job! By now that fact has been proven many times by different sources.
     
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    Wow! The Mexican Press Club you say? Well gosh, they sound awfully prestigious. I mean, they certainly don't sound like the sort of organisation that would give awards to pretty much any left wing or anti-Western writer pumping our anti-US propaganda. Oh, wait. This is the organisation that has given awards to pathologically anti-American people such as Julian Assange and James Petras. Even better, they have given multiple awards to Russian propaganda outlet RT. They are to journalism what the Catholic Church is to child minding.

    I can certainly see why you think that makes them credible. No sane person with an adult level understanding of the world would agree

    'Proved'? The same way it has been 'proved' that only 500,000 Jews died in the holocaust? Like I said, there are never any surprises about the sort of person drawn to Meyssan's fantasies & lies.
     
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    Thanks Big Fella, for such an elaborate reply. I feel almost honored. In any case, I now know not to bother you in the future, as you seem to belong to the upper elite class of the likes as Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and Wolfowitz.
    Have a nice evening!
    Jzz
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    Do you think this will be the second one, Russian collusion being the first! ;)
     
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    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sons-top-democrats-ukraine-clinton/

    Snopes...lol....
    Look the ukranians are a poor people, but sure did donate to the clinton foundation . I wonder if they continue to donate now that Hillary lost. What do you think , does the ukranian government still donate to clinton foundation when hillary has no power. Im sure they still care about giving to the needy... lolol
     
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    The jousting here is supposed to be fun, take nothing said personal. I work with dying people, sometimes they say things to me that they mean for their kids that never come to see them. I learned to detach my emotions from that. Folks here can say anything they want to me, it's water off a duck's back.
     
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    Seth Abramson Retweeted Rachel Maddow MSNBC

    BREAKING NEWS: Dmitry Firtash—Repped By Trump Legal Advisors, Getting Hundreds of Millions From Putin for No Clear Reason—Was Financing the Work of the Two Defendants Who Were (Per Trump Lawyer John Dowd) Aiding Trump's Legal Team, Suggesting Putin Funded Trump's Ukraine Lobbying

    S
     
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    Good grief, don't you know yet how different charities are structured?
     
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    Ukraine always gives tons of cash to usa charity. Yes , your so wise ...
     
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    Thanks, dear Professor, for your comforting words. I will heed your advice and oil my feathers from now on!!!

    :D
     
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    Much like it didn't matter when Mueller said no collusion.
     
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    can you believe the shell company these Trump guys used, "Fraud Guaranteed: and "Mafia Rave", you can't make this stuff up, it's crazy

    Trump accosiates are the stupidist people ever
     
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