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Vindman struggles to explain why he used "demand" when questioned

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by MolonLabe2009, Oct 30, 2019.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have no idea what you're asking. What conclusion are you talking about? He didn't reach any conclusion. What the hell is wingnut talk-radio telling you guys Col Vindman's role is in all of this?
     
    Golem, Oct 31, 2019
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    I'm a rightie, and I certainly don't support that.. I must say I feel somewhat insulted being labeled that way simply because of party affiliation :(
     
    ButterBalls, Oct 31, 2019
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Well in my case I have only what is being said about him! Personal knowledge of the man is not something I'm privy to.. But I do know his life is about to change for the worst thanks to our fine leftist manipulators in Washington ;)
     
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  4. Margot2

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    So far.. everything the whistleblower claimed has been corroborated.

    https://theintercept.com/2019/10/29...man-jew-fled-soviet-persecution-dual-loyalty/


    Desperate to undercut the credibility of a White House official who testified to the House impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, Republicans resorted to an age-old smear tactic by questioning the loyalty of the witness, a naturalized American citizen who fled the Soviet persecution of Jews as a child and rose to the rank of Army colonel.

    The witness, Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, is a decorated Iraq War veteran who advises the National Security Council on Ukraine and Russia. According to his prepared testimony, Vindman notified White House lawyers on two occasions in July that President Donald Trump and his aides had politicized aid to Ukraine, by pressing Ukraine’s president to help smear Democrats in return for nearly $400 million in security assistance.
     
    Margot2, Oct 31, 2019
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  5. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He said the phone call was wrong or some such words. Would all Lt Col's see it the same way?
     
    kriman, Oct 31, 2019
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  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then you need to do more research. His military record is public.
     
    Golem, Oct 31, 2019
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    Sterling I would assume! But soon to be tarnished in the eyes of more people then EVER before :)
     
    ButterBalls, Oct 31, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, it is not public. There is general information, but his personnel files are not public.
     
    kriman, Oct 31, 2019
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Don't know or care about opinions. Only interested in facts.
     
    Golem, Oct 31, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then his testimony is not needed. Only the transcript of the call matters.
     
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    ....which have ALL been based on personal interpretation and personal opinion.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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    How do you know Vindman served his country faithfully? The answer is you don't know.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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    Just like Obama helped Russian whenever he could.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 31, 2019
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    I am an athiest, yet the oath means something to me.

    I won't speak for anyone else...
     
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    Everything that Trump touches is tarnished. He has sort of an "inverse Midas touch".
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    His personal files are irrelevant.
     
    Golem, Oct 31, 2019
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    If it's true that he made that accusation, it is unsupported by any evidence available to the public.
     
    Thought Criminal, Oct 31, 2019
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    No.. They opened the case against Manafort in 2013-2014.. Giuliani took over for Manafort when Manafort went to jail.

    You know the "money laundering Russians from Mira Lago" who were arrested fleeing the country a couple weeks ago..

    They paid Rudy $500,000.
    Rudy Giuliani Paid $500,000 By Ukraine Henchman's Company ...
    www.esquire.com/news-politics/a29471656/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-henchman-fraud-guarantee/
     
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    You have morals, many don't..
     
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    Smears by ankle biters don't reflect on anyone but the ankle biters.
     
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    In this instance it's the left :)
     
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  22. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure... if we ever get a transcript of the call. Please avoid making a fool of yourself on your response to this by claiming that Trump "in all his holiness" declared the memo a "transcript"
     
    Golem, Oct 31, 2019
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    His testimony would still be only his opinion/recollection of the call. Not word for word.

    Nope. If you only want facts, you won't get them from him.
     
    kriman, Oct 31, 2019
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! My God... you are so clueless. Didn't they tell you on that right wingnut pseudo-news blog where you think you are informing yourself why he was in the call in the first place?

    Discussions with you are always such a waste of time because you don't know even the most basic facts. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude but this is too much of a waste of time.
     
    Golem, Oct 31, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Few people can remember a phone call word for word if it several minutes long.
    You are long on insults. Not so much on substance.

    By the way. When you say "with you are always such a waste of time" That is either a lie or an exaggeration. Take your choice. Depends on whether you believe it is true.
     
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