And the day a male dies from complications of pregnancy is the day a male can force a woman to carry to term - otherwise their opinion doesn't really mean crap in the big picture.
Not married ? These pregnancies were then the product of Sin - carnal lust. To continue such a pregnancy would be an affront to God - and all things good - a bastard child would brought into this world. A zygote is not a child - it is a single human cell. The program codes inside the zygote DNA have been activated for the creation of a child - but a child has not yet been created at the zygote stage. In fact .. not a single cell of that child exists - the zygote will never be one of the cells that make up that potential child. If not a single cell from the structure/body of a human exists - how can that human exist ?
FoxHastings said: ↑ Why are you posting fake photos? If you had a good argument you wouldn't need to fake anything..... ….and your point is??? I don't care if they're both fake or both real......what's your point?
These examples serve to show the world that the democratic left thinks it's totally fine to kill defenseless unborn children and do so without any remorse whatsoever. Sometime's it's wise to put a face on exactly what Planned Parenthood wants to kill. People can relate better to the pro life argument after seeing these images. And heaven forbid we show a dismembered baby? The left would lose their minds! You see, they like to keep their agenda hidden behind smoke and mirrors. Once you see a dismembered aborted baby its wise to make the switch to pro life. Did it ever occur to you that down the road, an ex mother might miss her aborted baby?
I guess when you work documenting crime scenes and you have to process a 15 year-old who has slit her own wrists because she was raped and impregnated by a family member, you start to look at the needs and mental state of the potential mother a bit more seriously than some seem to do. You appear to only see the mother as a uterus for you to have control over and completely disregard the woman's mental or physical state during pregnancy. No wonder women in general hold a collective middle finger up to guys who want control of their reproductive choices.
Forcing women to have a baby is not an invasion of the mother's body autonomy, Because pregnancy is a natural attribute and required for continuation of the species. And on the other hand, abortion should be a crime. A collective middle finger is better than collective suicide, wouldnt you say? First of all, I would offer exceptions for rape and incest. And how do you know that's the reason this girl cut her wrists? Obviously a very very rare example. What Im saying is we need to fundamentally change the way people view abortion. This is about educating young children on the dangers of sexual promiscuity. Instead of teaching death, we will teach love. We will teach that an unborn baby is a treasure to both God and man. This is unity in a family, and this is what we will focus on.
This is an Abortion thread - in order to claim "murder" exists you first much prove that the zygote is a living human - and you have not done so. Certainly God YHWH didn't value the fetus on the level of a living human. Abortion was commanded in the case of a woman suspected to have slept with another man. In terms of "Murder" - the first question is "which God" - There are 3 Gods in the Bible. The God of Abraham was El - The God of the Israelite's was YHWH - warrior God. Then you have the God of Jesus who was may have been El but certainly was not YHWH. YHWH was a flip flopping xenophobic genocidal God with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics. This God made a law stating that Children should not be punished for the sins of their parents (Good Law - part of the Rule of Law today) YHWH then turns around and commands the Israelite's slaughter whole towns of people, including children, babies and the unborn - Because of the sins of their parents. The God of Jesus was different "Love neighbor as self" "Do unto others" "Judge not" "Let ye who is without sin cast the first rock". Clearly not the same God. Surly murder would be an affront to this God. Perhaps Murder would be an affront to YHWH - having "Do not kill" in the 10 commands - but this God broke this command (for no good reason) so many times that it is hard to say. Hey -where is the answer to the 3 questions asked in a previous post ?
*Abortion is murder as far as God is concerned I have a song you are going to love. The lyrics are particularly applicable. There is only one God. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. You are getting all mixed up because you don't understand theological dispensations. Quick primer on God: Water can be a liquid, a solid and a gas. Three different forms, but the same atomic structure. Father, Son, Holy Ghost. Same God. Only one LIVING God. The most important factor to success as a human is the fear of God. Murder is most definitely a front to God. After all, killing is Satan's business and creating is God's. The stark contrast can be overlaid on the abortion debate. The first person to essentially comprehend the power of Jesus was John the Baptist in the womb In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a town in Judah, and she entered the house of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth. And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.” (Luke 1:39–45) Remarkable.
What is remarkable is your usurping the position of Jesus - "speaking for God" - and putting words in Gods mouth. You don't know the Bible - but you are good at repeating man made dogma - likely from some fundamentalist sect. You keep repeating the same themes over and over - as if repetition constitutes proof of claim but, fail to respond to information that conflicts with your man made dogma. You nor I knows that God thinks - and even if we take the Bible as "what God thinks" you get that wrong as well. Satan does not act outside of Gods will in the OT. Have you never read the Book of Job ? Satan is one of God's sons - just like Jesus. Your quote below contributes nothing to your claim that God thinks Abortion is Murder. It shows a woman happy about being pregnant .. as most women are. You make up some analogy that supposedly represents the Trinity - again from some man made dogma (this time made up by you) - but even your dogma contradicts Church Doctrine - and those who formulated the Trinity. New word for you "Homoousios" - a word inserted into the Nicene Creed at Emperor Constantine's insistence. In English this word is translated as "One Substance" - one substance with the Father. To the Greeks there were 2 kinds of substances - that which man, plants, trees, soil and everything else was made of -and that which God was made of. God is then not matter - not "atoms" - and you are a lost soul. Jesus said that there was one unforgivable sin. That sin is the one that you are committing. The Jesus of John is "the Logos" Translated as "the word". While Logos can mean word - in a religious context it means the emissary between man and God. The author was trying to increase the appeal of Christianity by using terminology that the people of the day were familiar. Jesus spoke the word of God directly through the Holy Spirit. Jesus then "was" the word of God - in this respect - a representation of the word of God - the Logos - emissary between man and God. You are not the Logos - and so in claiming to know the mind of God directly - as you have done - you are usurping the position of Jesus. Falsely representing the word of God - as you have done - is the unforgivable sin - a sin against the Holy Spirit. Jesus had a few choice words for such people. You can call out "Jesus Jesus" all you like - it will not do you any good unless you "practice" the teachings of Jesus - faith alone will not save you. Your faith is built on sand. The reason I say this is because you can not deal with information that conflicts with your man made dogma - even when it comes from the Bible. If one tenet of your belief is challenged - the whole structure comes under threat - and so you can not handle critical thought. This tendency to avoid "bad thoughts" - anything that conflicts with cult doctrine - is called "thought stopping" - very common among those who are under the influence of sophisticated mind control techniques. Now go back and answer the 3 questions post to you in my previous post - unless your faith is too weak to handle it.
The new DNA is there from the start. This is how we can distinguish between one human being and another. I am a proponent of extending the right's afforded to born humans to the unborn as well. Perhaps that would stop the bloodbath genocide that's ripping through our unborn population. Because if we are entitled to the right to life, our unborn children should get the same opportunity. I have yet to hear a sound rebuttal to the inalienable right to life, given to each and every one of us by God. Abortionist Enthusiasts be like "OH THE HORROR" of carrying a baby to term without killing it. Yes, this is actually how they think. They think the unborn child is like a parasite, and yet they were unborn at one point in their lives as well. If an unborn child "graduates" to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and we were created by God, the right to life CANNOT be denied to the unborn.
Absolutely. Thou shalt NOT kill is pretty clear if you ask me. Doesnt say though shalt NOT murder it says though shalt NOT kill. Abortion involves killing the living fetus. This is absolutely unconscionable in the eyes of God.
The Hebrew in that passage is לֹא תִּרְצָח ; lo tirṣaḥ; it means "you shall not murder." Take the time to educate yourself.
Correct - however the having of human DNA does not magically turn a single human cell into a living human. You have yet to prove your claim that a human exists at conception - and have no response to criticisms of your unsupported claims. You would not respond to a sound rebuttal if you heard one. Inalienable rights are for humans and you have yet to even come close to supporting your claim that a zygote is a human.
Every human began as a "zygote". You would not be able to advocate murdering the unborn, sans your "zygote" stage.