Oh wow, a petty and snide, personal insult. Did you forget to work your trademark smear of "uneducated extremist" into there?
Bad Idea. That also involves women who definitely want to have children. Btw, Most women want to have biological children. It's part of female nature. Infertile women are usually very unhappy about that.
FoxHastings said: ↑ I don't know, I don't know every law in every state. Could you show me one of those laws that says a fetus is a legal person? Why TF would I need to know this in an abortion forum ….or know it at all. ??? Ya, it has nothing to do with abortion. Abortion isn't murder. The woman opts to have one, it's her body, no one else's. No one else gets to decide if she has the kid or not.... You also didn't show what those laws consider an "unborn child"....what fetal age they consider murder. Abortion is legal until the 23-24th week.... Sorry, but this "Aha" moment Anti-Choicers think they have just isn't.
Good post but I hope you aren't encouraging Anti-Choicers to violence....they have that proclivity anyway
Yup, two different things are two different things ! Wow!! Uh, no......how TF could it? Hey, this isn't a thread on female mutilation....Hey , this isn't even the correct forum for it !
The most despicable act is to compare the horror, injustice, torture and death that Jews and slaves endured to the quick painless death of a fetus THUS DENIGRATING (OR DENYING !!!!!) WHAT JEWS and SLAVES ENDURED....A DEPLORABLE DESPICABLE THING TO DO.. The total lack of respect for what slaves (mostly blacks) and Jews endured, to say it was nothing, is the sickest thing on the earth.....and says everything there is to know about those who do that... Fetuses are not and were not tortured, raped, murdered, ..they did not slave in a hot southern sun from dawn to dark with no compensation, they were not sold, they had NO grotesque experiments performed on them, they did not have all their property stolen from them, they were not starved, they were not beaten, they were not herded like animals into pens, they did NOT have their rights taken away, they were NOT declared non-humans , they did not FEEL the unbelievable pain that Jews and slaves endured. Slaves and Jews WERE forced to gestate, EXACTLY WHAT ANTI-CHOICERS WISH TO DO TO WOMEN.
Do you even know what the term brainwash means? Even the most independent of thinkers can be brainwashed. Furthermore, I cannot see how you interpret expressed concern for women's individual autonomy as an expression of misogyny. Only in cuckoo-land can opposition to the over-sexualisation of the female body and critique of men using women solely for their sexual gratification be equated to "a low view of women". Do you even know what the quoted sentence means? It is very clearly one that criticises men. The Devil in this context serve as an archetypical metaphore for true evil. Call it Satan or call it Patraiarchy, I choose the term "Devil" because it is one we - as Westerners - all can relate to. Had I referenced some evil forrest-creature from Scandinavian folklore, none of you Americans would have understood what I was talking about. Are you making fun of the religious now? That is not very tolerant.
Women who believe (rightly) that they have a right to bodily autonomy are not "brainwashed". Women being free to have all the sex they want is not "over-sexualization of the female body ".... Which is exactly what I did . You:"" It destroys all incentives for men to be gentlemen""" Me: LOL! YUP, men always need to blame someone else for their bad behavior Then why not say "evil"...instead of using some fairy book creature.? No, I was clearly making fun of the silly image of a big red guy with horns and a forked tail...
Gee, ask those who made those laws !! But I don't know where you got the idea that a fetus wasn't alive (???)
You are skewing and distorting my view and misguiding the conversation again. Stop it. This is debatable. I am not here to mock the religious, so I won't even bother answering this. Okay.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Gee, ask those who made those laws !! But I don't know where you got the idea that a fetus wasn't alive (???) Excuse me! Where did I say in that post that I didn't believe women had a right to their own body? Please show it...
Uuuuuuuuuum, excuse me! Buuuut, like, in that post you, like, sooo totally said that you, like, believe the fetus is a life by, like, totally referring to it as, like, being alive and stuff and that is, like, exactly and totally what the, like, Pro-Life position is and stuff.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Women who believe (rightly) that they have a right to bodily autonomy are not "brainwashed". I'm not. I said , "Women who believe (rightly) that they have a right to bodily autonomy are not "brainwashed"."" A true statement. No, no debate, Women being free to have all the sex they want is not "over-sexualization of the female body ".... OK.
My,my, you seem a little rattled today...are you alright ? No one has ever said a fetus is not alive. No one.
Well, ya, but that's you.... One would have to be really confused to think that I don't believe in women's right to their own bodies. Gee, you haven't shown me anyone who said the fetus wasn't alive...…..
FoxHastings said: ↑ Well, ya, but that's you.... One would have to be really confused to think that I don't believe in women's right to their won bodies. Gee, you haven't shown me anyone who said the fetus wasn't alive...….. Pro-Choicers have never said a fetus is not alive. Gee, you haven't shown me anyone who said the fetus wasn't alive...….. ….and until you do you are just flailing around with make believe...…. Oh, BTW, "Pro-Lifers" are NOT pro life...