The purpose of Impeachment.

Not from what I have seen. When pinned down, the so called witnesses can't really come up with anything they heard Trump say.

 

It's true, Trump never told Zelensky he was going to bribe him.

It would appear that Trump's fans are incapable of thinking beyond 2020.

Throughout his entire President, a majority of Americans have disapproved of Trump's performance. Trump is the least popular President in modern American history. The GOP has lost several key elections in 2018 and 2019 and they lost control of the House because of Trump.

In other words, in all likelihood Trump will lose in 2020.

Trump's fans ignore all the evidence -- they avoid it, actually -- and insist that Trump is innocent. They are totally unaware of the consequences of that judgment.

Most likely in 2021 a Democrat will become President. If not in 2021, then 2025, or at some point a Democrat will be in the Oval Office.

If Trump is declared innocent of asking a foreign government to intervene in our election on his behalf, if Trump is declared innocent of using bribery as an incentive, if Trump is declared innocent of obstructing justice when he clearly defied Congress, then Democratic Presidents will be allowed to continue the practice.

That possibility exists as early as Jan. 20, 2021. Do Trump's fans really want to grant that kind of power to Democratic Presidents?

 

I watched the Judiciary Committee hearing today, and it was quite interesting. The Democrats concentrated on the evidence and what Trump did and said.

The Republicans on the committee were caught between a rock and hard spot. They are dealing with a President who, by his own words and those of his chief of staff, is guilty of a number of impeachable offenses. Consequently, they avoided the evidence and what Trump did and said, concentrating on the process, whistleblower, whistleblower's complaint which has been superseded by a mountain of evidence and testimony, Hunter and Joe Biden, the Mueller Report, the economy, job growth, and constant references to an election that took place three years ago.

It should be significant to Trump's fans that the Republicans were unable to deal with the evidence, and were helpless when it came to what Trump said and did.

 

He never bribed him and is not even being charged with that.
I don't care about his ratings they are of no matter here.
It;s up to the Democrats to prove Trump violated the law in a bribe if bribery is going to be the reason for impeachment, they can't.
All Presidents should investigate clear probable causes or corruption at the highest levels with foreign governments, don't you agree?
Do you really want to empower a Republican House with the power to impeach the next Democrat President simply because they know they will not like him or his policies and then create false reasons to do so.

 

The Democrats touched on the presumptions and speculations about something that didn't happen while the Republicans continued to show that. The Republicans were able to deal quite effectively in that once again no fact witnesses, no evidence of a quid pro quo or a bribe or extortion.

 

Seats are lost in congress in just about every off year.

Maybe so. But it will be because of an election. Not this farce.

I have never claimed Trump was innocent. What I have claimed is that the evidence that he is guilty has not been produced.

Are you saying that the democratic party is not dead yet? What a revelation. Any more words of wisdom?

But nothing where Trump said where if the Ukraine did not investigate, then they would lose funding.

 

Trump hasn't been charged with anything ... yet. The Article of Impeachment haven't been written ... yet.

 

Trump did not use the word, "corruption," in his April 21 call to Zelensky.

Trump did not use the word, "corruption," in his July 25 call to Zelensky.

https://apnews.com/92fd8a4743e8447a8f8a7ec301ebe993

 

Should the executive branch be forbidden from speaking with foreigners?

 

See post 148.

 

Same answer.
But nothing where Trump said where if the Ukraine did not investigate, then they would lose funding.

 

Well I think we all knew what he was talking about and what Zelensky had run on.

 

Their greatest fear was a congress that would use the impeachment clause for political gain. They spent an inordinate amount of time discussing the impeachment of the president.

 

Literally nothing at all in your post was true.

 

President Trump brought this impeachment on himself. Just because the Senate will not convict, doesn’t mean the House was incorrect to vote on AOI.

 

How so by blowing the whistle on corruption?

 

No, by telling people to ignore congressional subpoenas.

 

Of course the democrats ignored the process and are charging Trump with impeachment for protecting the separation of powers. They are in such a hurry that they ignored the process to let the court decide the issue, in fact they can't wait until January for their subpoena of the WH lawyer and have shelved all their other subpoenas. This isn't about the constitution but because they can't chance Trump winning again and replacing more judges. This is an effort to affect the 2020 election, exactly what they are saying Trump is doing.

 

We have 3 separate powers

 

The HoR does not have to wait for the courts to decide whether this is separation of powers or obstruction. The President took a stand and so did the House.

 

LOL, the courts are always the ones to decide that as in past impeachments. The dem clown show is making it up as they go and they will be soundly smacked down in the Senate.

 

Of course! Because their major fear was that we would lose the Republic. They didn't just "discuss" it. They were willing to give up their lives for it. And never in our history has it seen a bigger threat from within than Trump.

Your statement is ludicrous and a complete denial of history. I'm amazed that you even attempted this line of defense. I think there would have been better ones. Because this one requires completely changing history.

 

What is the upper limit of the proper population of a republic. In order to give each individual a say in the governance?

 

Yay. I love it when government functionaries set upon each other. Fun sport.

 

Yes, you are right. Trump did not tell Zelensky that he was using Congressionally approved military aid as leverage to get what he wanted. Trump figured the Ukrainian would figure it out. It was pretty obvious.

You must think Trump is really stupid.