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In fact, it was a tax revolt. All the other issues were related to the tyrannical imposition of taxes.
Have you ever taken a course in American history? If not there are many free text copies of older textbooks on the internet now.

 

I dont know what point you are trying to make.

I know Salem reasonably well. My sister lives there. My family came to Oregon in covered wagons in 1849.

Be careful.

 

Yes I am, with all the past and present gerrymandering in cities like Chicago and Detroit we will never see it go red to a Republican mayor


Yes I am with the census counting illegals states have 3 or 4 Electoral votes then they deserve, with sanctuary states they are building the population up, dont you see it?

 

So do I get the word on streets first hand I know exactly what Salem Oregon is doing with homeless people

 

Denying the obvious doesn't work anymore.

 

Ok ..


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.statesmanjournal.com/amp/1765497002

Why the plan to end homelessness in Salem, Marion, Polk counties stalled for 10 years

 

How middle aged? I was forty when I learned to program CNC lathes.

 

One reads sound bites, one reads books newspaper articles for 54 years...

Why do you think I comment on so many topics?

A born Chicago guy an introvert who lived in South Carolina, Myrtle beach, spruce pines north Carolina, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Arizona, Wyoming, Colorado, and now Boise Idaho.

 

The folks at Texas Instruments invented the integrated curcuit at the same time the folks at Fairchild, in California, were also inventing the integrated circuit. Radio Shack, out of Fort Worth, was booming, and Motorola, an Arizona company had a lot of operations going on in Texas. Just as the tech industry was about to take off, forward looking states such as California, Colorado, and Massachusettes, took steps to draw the industry to their states, even gearing up their high schools and universities to accommodate it.

Texas, on the other hand, in some misguided idea about the government getting out of the way of business, withdrew money and other support from not only the tech industry, but also from the super collider that had been long planned, and was killed off. And in the process screwed up the science education in the Texas public schools.

Texas has spent more than forty years trying to drive away high tech and science. While California, Washington, Colorado, and Massachusettes have been reaping the rewards.

 

All these economic factors are not some sort of absolute.

As we saw in the last election, there are people making similar wages until they lost their jobs due to conraction and automation.

This will continue as automaton maks more advances.

So, there will probably always be some good paying jobs in manufacturing somewhere, but for anyone coming out of high school those opportunities are shrinking.

Our competition with other countries and within our own economy here is going to be giving the good salaries to employees in sectors other than manufacturing - high tech, clean energy, innovation, medical technology, automation, etc.

The good jobs in those sectors require more education. And, that's where our growth is headed - not agriculture or even manufacturing, which anyone around the world can do torday.

Even in the trades, more education is required. Being an electrician today does not mean you can wire some lights. Being in HVac requires more, too. The systems deal with technology that is rapidly changing. Almost everything today seems to include automation and communication components. Unless you think you can live out your career doing basic level installation, more (and probably constant) education is required.

 

I'd suggestadding the Declaratin of Independence to your reading lst.

 

High schools teach manufacturing? Where?

 

Dude California gave her a four million vote lead. In the remainder of the country Trump one by 1 million.

 

I was waiting for you to say that, I guess I was lucky and grew up in a two parent home ..


And a garage that had lathes and bridge ports. I was just a high school graduate with some night school I caught real quick to injection molding and robotics, for some reason I never understood I was a natural at electronics / electrical troubleshooting.



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I personally feel with the rise of a single parent home the past 40 years, children doesn't have a mother and a father, it used to drive me crazy with college kids and high school kids who couldn't use a hammer or read a tape measure, so a year and a half ago I quit , retired and just been bumming around America

 

I suggest the federation papers and read the biography of Benjamin Franklin and Madison, they are huge but one can do it.

 

When I was forty, I bought a machine lathe and then designed and built all the circuitry and gearing to turn it into a computer controlled device. Kind of what I did for a living. I don't know how it compares to CNC lathes, but to program it, all I have to do is send it an AutoCAD polyline.

I used to have parts made that way all the time. I'd create a 3d model, and export it out in whatever format the vendor's machines wanted. They'd just plug the file into their computer, push a few buttons, and parts came out the other end. I do that now with a 3d printer.

 

Yes, the Brookings report does seem to sugest that.

They also seem to indicate that natural industry tendency will be that high tech will concentrate in specific places - unlike manufactring that will ten to spread toward where there are resources (labor, shipping, fewer restrictions on pollution, lower taxes, etc.). One doesn't even have to try to drive it away! It will go away on its own.

Brookings says any attempt to spread the benefits of high tech and innovation economic factors will require serious help by government.

And, that's not happening today.

For those in the 5 or so metro areas where high tech is concentrating, that's probably great. But, I'm not so sure it's great for America as a whole.

 

Proven false

 

I thnk you can divided the electorate along lines that show greater disparity than that.

And, I think they could be more relevant to political direction.

CA has a LOT of dense population and is relatively educated. I think you would find there are similar people in other places that are densly populated and similarly educated.

This is the challenge in Texas, for example. The political change there has to do with features such as population concentration, etc. That is similar to CA, but it isn't because of CA.

Are you rooting for some sort of major partisan political action against CA?

 

And?

 

Very cool, by the way!! Tasks like that require creativity and reasonable mastery of a fairly wide range of tools.

Just mastering any part of that would be an accomplishment!

To a certain extent, I think industry recruiters today are looking for benchmarks they can ask for (x years experience, speciic education degrees), etc.

They can't really afforde to try to figure out exactly what someone has accomplished on their own, so they look for paper.

Good or bad, that makes the paper important.

My brother ran into that. He had a couple decades of experience in high tech QA, but when he switched jobs they nailed himm for not having actually gotten his HS diploma. He had to actually go back to his HS and get them to copy the microfische to prove he had that checkbox!! Otherwise he would absolutely not have gotten his current job - which involves a high tech part of the F-35 among others.

 

Huh?


How does one make computer circuits on a lathe and turn it into a computer..


A lathe turns steel you make gun barrels with it for example, you make screws with it for example





Are you talking about a soldering iron? Yes you can make circuit boards and computers that's how Steve Jobs started out with Apple

 

We disagree.


BTW at Bundy 1
only the Federals had firearms!


You claim an issue I do not agree is an issue
except to get the Federals out of . . . . .
the business of persecuting rural folks.
PLEASE
Search the Hammond Family Ranch and how the
Federals can persecute Rural Peoples. Really.

Or to put it in YOUR words​

Is It Okay For The Federals To Persecute Rural Folks?
Easier than urban folks.

BTW I have some ownership in two ranch properties.
One producing cattle.


If you reply without familiarity of the Hammond Family Ranch
ttfn.
It takes more than an obtuse opinion.
It takes some foundation too!


Moi

Get The Federals Out of
State Lands!
Is The Issue.​

 

I can post more if you like, this young neighbor I took in because she was homeless, got her a job at a local drill company, I paid for her steel toed shoes and prescription safety glasses, drove her to work and she was making 60 grand a year easily with over time in the boonies of South Carolina.

Bought a car real fast and started over at her one acre rented house.


To say there is no good jobs is not a reality for low skill workers