The New Right

Every week thousands of Americans find themselves on the new right, by default, as the democrat-socialists move their party ever further toward the polar left. This movement is reflected in organizations like Turning Point USA, #blexit and #walkaway. There is no analog to these movements on the left.

The thing about taking up a position at the political left pole is that anyone who differs from you in any way differs to the right. People who have, for decades, been on opposites sides of the political world now find themselves together on the New Right.

 

You haven't explained what the 'NEW right' is. Perhaps you think that it's something that everyone knows about.

 

As water retreats, one gets new land by default. As the line between left and right moves left, one gets new right by default
As the democrat-socialists take up position at the polar left, everyone else is, by definition, to the right of them.
The "new right" is comprised of people who have not changed their political positions yet find themselves on the right side of a political divide that is moving to the left.

 

Interesting definition. Is that your own? I assume that you first heard of the term 'New Right' applying specifically to the right, with nothing to do with the left. As described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Right

 

The New Right is made up of people who have not changed their political positions yet find themselves on the right side of a political divide that is moving left. Those on the New Right, are on the New Right, by default.

 

Democrats always drift too far until they lose elections in landslides. We are seeing history repeat. Playing politics of race, sex, sexual orientation, etc....in order to get elected is easier than having actual policies.

 

I'm part of the people which left the left. There is the same tendancy in France.

However, I can't say I became right winged.

 

Bases are shifting. The right is picking up the white working class, the left is picking up a coalition of academics, journalists, minorities, immigrants, and the children of the wealthy.

In the US at least this all began with the 2010 midterms. I think the Dems made a deliberate effort to appeal to this new coalition at the risk of losing some of their traditional white working class base.

 

I was sitting at my kitchen table yesterday, decided to partake in the realm of a uncontrolled substance and wash it down with a controlled substance, and contemplate what is going on in America. After a few minutes I found myself on the internet,ordering a 100 shares of Charlottes Web and Constellation Brands, as surely the country has gone to pot. It seems the politicians are drinking the hard stuff as they have become drunk for power. Like the dinosaurs before us, I think, my time also is soon to be upon me. I think for the best though.

As I switched back and forth from the news to the stock reports I noticed how both had been become insane and surreal. We had companies, whose stocks were going parabolic like a company that pretend to be meat but are really vegetable based. (I asked my butcher if that stuff sells and he just shook his head and said " It really does". A car company, with no earnings. that actually has become more valuable than Ford or General Motors. Switch channels and you have a group of politicians who are impeaching a President over the same sins that their previous party leaders committed. Yes, children, there is a "Deep State".

I know only a few of you will read this post, all the others have their heads stuck in social media websites, but I'm willing to accept my fate as a dying breed. Too all the other posters on here I hope you never go away. I sincerely believe that, we as a nation, have lost our sense of humor and unable to poke fun at ourselves. Political correctness has not united us but divided us and isolated us from each other.

 

While I agree that the Dems have slid too far to the left - Conservatives have been too far to the right for a long time - so all your comments about the far left is also applicable to the far right.

For example - you have to be a anti abort to be on the right these days - not even just the far right - most of the right.

You talk about "Democratic Socialists" but what about Conservative Socialists ? While the folks on the right claim to be against socialism - the party leaders love socialism (wealth redistribution) - even more so than the left - and this has been the case since Reagan.

The movement that I see growing the most is the anti Establishment movement - on both sides of the fence. This movement has yet to gel - and their talking points straight - but it will happen.

 

I assume that you first heard of the term 'New Right' applying specifically to the right, with nothing to do with the left. As described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Right

 

It is difficult to define the new right from a non ideological perspective, and it's various members beliefs cover the 95% of the political spectrum that is not Bernie Sanders and left.

 

Or in other words...The New Reich
"word analogous in meaning to the English word "realm". The terms Kaiserreich (literally "realm of an emperor") and Königreich (literally "realm of a king") are used in German to refer to empires and kingdoms respectively. The Cambridge Advanced Learner's"

 

I think he/she explained it very well. Basically, and please correct me if I'm wrong OP, the far left has gotten to the point where they have distanced themselves so far from moderate democrats that these remaining moderate democrats are now closer to the right (hence NEW right) than they are to the NEW left

 

True.
Many times I've heard people say "I didn't leave the party- the party left me".

 

In religious terms would that mean LIMBO? There is nothing new about what the far left is preaching. I can remember hearing the same stuff from Gus Hall back in the 50's. The Hollywood movie types have preached the socialist line since they were invented. Che sweatshirts are still worn by our kids today. I would like to know what a moderate Democrat sounds like today. Are Joe Biden and Bloomberg moderate? I think not. Unionism is not a moderate position. Telling people what they can eat and drink is not a moderate position. Unsecure borders and a total open door policy is not a moderate position. Allowing the harvesting of body parts and the genocide of millions of minority woman's children is not a moderate position. These are just not moderate positions but close to immoral positions. The liberal Bill Clinton may have been, the closest thing, to the last moderate Democrat president

 

Can you be more specific with the underlined above?

 

I agree with pretty much all of it, but the new left is sooo crazy that they even make Obama seem like a moderate

 

Oh my, a case of plagiarism, that's naughty

 

I would like to agree with you, but then, we both would be wrong. IMO, Obama and all his cohorts are actually orchestrating this whole shift to the far left. Has endorsed his ex running mate Biden? No. Has he said he could live with Elizabeth Warren on the ticket? Yes. Did not the machine crush Gabbert for not being in line with the progressives? ( which really is just a nice word for Socialist or Communist). Did not the socialist moderator at CNN set up Bernie against Warren at the debate for confrontation? Why? Bernie is a advocate for socialism and in reality a Communist. Buttincheek will be the next to be destroyed. They are already trying very hard to convince the party that he is not acceptable to blacks. The millionaire candidates will not be accepted by the far left. I really believe when they all get to the Convention that it will be brokered and the Candidate that will be the nominee is …………………………………………………………………………….Drum roll please...……………………………………………...For President a woman or man named Obama and the VP (a dog- bone choice) Elizabeth Warren or Oprah Winfred.

 

Sounds odd that a classical liberal that mostly defines my political position is part of the new right. Yet I also hold some conservative values and beliefs.

But what I am not is a neoliberal nor a neocon. Neither one of these ideologies serve anyone but those elites who give allegiance to no country. And dont give a **** about the damage they inflict upon the American people. And both parties are filled with and driven by both of these republic destroying ideologies.


I firmly believe the people of this country need to move to the left economically before the only middle class we have left is the upper middle consisting of the professional class which has always been the smallest part of the middle class.

But I sure dont want Americans to move more to the left on social issues because we can move into crazy town given the detestable influence of post modernism on the left.

I have no doubt at all that out of necessity we will move towards democratic socialism that maintains capitalism and the private sector. Driven there by what robotics and AI will do when it comes to people and employment. Capitalism has been so successful because it gave people jobs to buy what we were producing. Anything that removes people from the equation in huge numbers cannot be sustained. And unlike in the past there isnt a new sector that will replace jobs lost . We are at a totally new place. Industry and making what we consumed not only replaced agricultural jobs but we had to bring in immigrants to man our factories due to a labor shortage. And that is the difference when it comes to robotics and AI.

So democratic socialism will be used out of pure necessity along with a ggreater redistribution of income that is created by robots and AI .

Yang is ahead of his time in this UBI that along with working poor wages will provide the disposable income that allows the owner class a source of income. As well as the investor class .

We will still have the rich elite class but billionaires will be replaced by millionaires and even less than millionaires.

The other option is untenable and leads to revolution and rich elites being hung from oak trees that arose from a modern kind of feudalism where you have a small ggroup of rich people at the top with a tiny middle class as 80 percent of the rest living in poverty.

Most of the history of civilization is a history of a few rich and everyone else in poverty. That seems the natural way of things and it required basically some kind of dictator to keep it in place

 

I don't even care for the terms, left and right, as if political ideology is a flat horizontal line, with fascism on the far right and communism on the far left. It's more of a circle, with Mao and Hitler holding hands at the top, with our founding fathers and the Constitutional republics at the bottom.

There is no real difference between Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Mao and Stalin, all were oppressive, dictatorial tyrants who hated allowing people Rights and freedom. The modern US Democratic Party is right up there getting within hand holding distance of Stalin

 

The progressive liberals are doing irrefutable harm to the democrat party.

Stop telling them. Let them keep going.

 

I disagree most people would see libertarian as "conservative" and they are pro-choice.

 

I don't see libertarian as "conservative" - The Conservative party has drifted too far away from Republicanism to be called "Republicans" - while there is still a fair bit of respect for Republicanism among libertarians.

Likewise - the modern Liberal has no respect for Classical Liberalism.

So it is a fine pickle we have found ourselves.