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‘Garbage Dressed Up as Legal Argument’: Lawyers, Law Profs ‘Baffled’ by Trial Memo’s Defense of Trum

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No defense is required. Trump is innocent until proven guilty and the Democrats don't even have a crime stated.

    How do you fools not see this?

    But, I have a feeling the Republicans will use this opportunity to embarrass the Democrats even more.
     
    HB Surfer, Jan 21, 2020
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    Trump was trying to create dirt as none existed, he was trying to bribe Ukraine into "announcing" an investigation into his political rival, a no no
     
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  3. MrTLegal

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    Now wikipedia Absolute Immunity and tell us how SCOTUS has ruled.
     
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    Sure.

    That's why 17 democrats voted with Republicans to hold him in contempt.

    How many Republicans joined you in the impeachment vote.

    Oh that's right. None + 3 democrats voted against impeachment.
     
    vman12, Jan 21, 2020
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  5. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Trump is not asserting Executive Privilege, is he?
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 21, 2020
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    You still think Trump is not going to be impeached?
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 21, 2020
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    Now Google posting a ridiculous argument that "Absolute Immunity" and "We Never Went to Court But We Impeached Anyway" and compare.
     
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    Yes it can.
    Sure. Here ya go

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon
     
    Cubed, Jan 21, 2020
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  10. MrTLegal

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    He is not being prosecuted for a crime, he is impeached and currently under consideration for removal.

    How do you fools not see this?

    But, I have a feeling the Democrats will use this opportunity to embarrass the Republicans even more.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 21, 2020
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    Directing staff not to testify is asserting Executive Privilege.

    Would you like a town crier with the proclamation on a scroll?
     
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  13. MrTLegal

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    Don McGahn is currently at the appellate level. That is also where Trump told the federal courts that they can never intervene.
     
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    Imagine a criminal trial where the accused is not even charged with a crime!
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2020
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    No, it is not. You do not assert Executive Privilege by ordering people to not testify. You are asserting ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY.

    If you want to assert Executive Privilege, then you need to make that assertion in response to a SPECIFIC QUESTION.
     
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    It's, quite literally, the only time SCOTUS has decided on EP. There are no 'rest of them'
     
    Cubed, Jan 21, 2020
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    Really.

    Do you have a copy of the letter they sent to SCOTUS on the matter?
     
    vman12, Jan 21, 2020
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    Good thing Impeachment is not a criminal trial.
     
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    That’s what the court is for. The dem clown show couldn’t wait so screwed up royally.
     
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    You appear to think Appellate Level and SCOTUS are the same?
     
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    The Democrats are CURRENTLY IN COURT challenging his assertion of absolute immunity. That is right now being decided by the Appellate Court.
     
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    1. The airlines and the US postmaster aren't the President

    2. The argument that Trump must comply with Congress WITHOUT going to court because SCOTUS ruled Executive Privilege didn't apply to tapes that held evidence of a crime is one of the poorest you could make.
     
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    Well, except for the constitution you might have a point. Treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors. Nothing like that in the articles.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2020
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    The Constitution only recognizes one court and if the Executive is not beholden to the courts then that would also apply to SCOTUS.

    It's called logic.
     
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    Shelved their subpoenas and in court for only McGahn so will only apply to McGahn.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2020
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