We need a new excuse

In what way does it not? Or the other 7-9 times that the Obama administration used the same process to leverage other nations? It begs the question of hypocrisy, and why, just in this case, the democrats are now willing to try to overthrow a duly elected president because, not hillary? That is the real question. And frankly, who cares? In this case, at least, the obvious answer is that the Ukraine still got their aid, something that the Obama administration surely withheld because they were more interested in seeing Russian expeditions succeed than coming to the aid of the Ukraine. So help us understand that what is being presented now is different, or that having the actual admission from Biden bragging that he similarly leveraged the Ukrainians to keep them (the Ukrainians) from continuing to investigate his son's business dealings in the Ukraine?

Honestly, this looks way more sketchy from the perspective that obviously, democrats have a lot that they want to hide here, hence why you refer to it as "fake investigation" when in reality, the real crime was what happened with Burisma.. I know, you won't ever admit to that, or that the current president may have a real interest in making sure that that crime or crimes were carried out to determine the level of involvement of those criminal acts by the Obama administration.

 

Yes, because at this point, bloviating is all that is left for the left.

 

You demonstrate the point. Thanks.

 

IMHO, a US President is OBLIGATED to inquire into any corruption in a foreign country receiving US aid , even if it may involve some American citizens of such high office as “Senator”

Just because Biden was stupid enough to be caught on video exposing his own involvement in a quid pro quo “deal” does NOT prevent an enquiry by Trump
to ascertain from the Ukrainian President what the current level of corruption.

 

Both incorrect.

 

Biden wasn’t president. Biden was acting on behalf of the president, carrying out US foreign policy and at the behest of the European Union.
Trump tried to solicit a foreign government to announce a fake investigation into a domestic political rival, by withholding congressionally apiece funds.

the 2 are in no way comparable.

 

Bolton didn't reveal anything.

A leak to the NYT's made an assumption.

 

Tighten your seat belts #92665967104673.

LMFAO!

How many failed seat belt tightenings are you going to need?

 

Whatever lets you sleep at night. What isn't fake is that it seems to entirely enrage the democratic establishment when they don't get their way. I guess we should expect them to be really pissed for the foreseeable future...

 

There is no reason to impeach him. The investigation was going on before Joe Biden announced his candidacy. To the fever dream that it was about putting your political rival was wrong from the get-go.

 

Both dead on the money. 1st everyone in DC thought Hunter Biden's association with Burissma was at best problematic and at worst as one put it nefarious. And that was during the Obama administration.

Please cite where in the Impeachment document that appears

 

attempting to prove a fact to a trumper is not possible

I agree charge biden with a crime....put him in the cell right next to trump

trumps only goal was to smear Biden enough so he does not get the DNC nomination

if Biden is guilty so is trump

so now the discussion should be how much time their sentences will be !! lol

 

We need evidence of a crime.

The Democrats haven't provided any yet.

 

I'm waiting for you to explain what you think he did.

Bolton Book Reportedly Contradicts DOJ Claims About Barr’s Knowledge Of Trump-Zelensky Call
Bolton reportedly claims in his book that he raised concerns about Rudy Giuliani’s shadow foreign policy with Barr after the President’s July phone call, and that he told Barr Trump had mentioned him on the call. On Monday, the Times reporter Michael Schmidt — one of the reporters who broke the news about Bolton’s book — described Bolton as telling Barr about the call “right after” it occurred.

That directly conflicts with what the Justice Department has said about Barr’s knowledge of the call. A Barr spokesperson denied to the Times that he learned about the call from Bolton.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...-about-barrs-knowledge-of-trump-zelensky-call

 

Like you, for a while this afternoon I thought it was Hunter Biden on trial. But then I realized it was still Trump.

 

Very simple: They don't care if he's a criminal who is abusing power; and selling out the country and the Constitution.

They don't care about morality, ethics, the rule of law, the Constitution, the system of checks and balances, or oversight, never mind character and integrity. They want a dictator.

 

Not in the least.

 

Law enforcement uses coercion to investigate crimes of coercion quite often, it is an accepted practice. This is the difference in the two cases.

 

There is a simple solution to quell your fevered doubts. Put Bolton under oath. Then, if he lies, he goes to jail. Fair enough? Or would putting him on the rack suffice? Would anything suffice? Tell us.

 

sad to say... you are correct...

 

Trump demanded an investigation in July 2019. Biden announced his candidacy in April 2019. Need help reading a calendar? Hint: it goes April, May, June, and then July.

 

Exactly, that is why Republicans are so wrong in their condemnation of Adam Shiff. If it wasn't him, it would be someone else y'all would be ragging on. If Trump wasn't so corrupt, there would be no corruption to investigste.

 

The investigation had been going on a year before Biden announced.

Trump tired Marie yovanovitch in 2018 a full year before Biden announced.

This Ukraine crap is it nothing burger just like Russia.

 

You need to work on your time line because you are still wrong. But don't let a silly thing like facts get it the way. Trump and his followers never do.

 

The corruption they are investigating exists only within their minds. It actually turns out it's more likely that is corrupt. Presidential but he would have known about it if they kept the damn mouth shut.

I don't know why you're not pissed at the Democrats. They are repeatedly shooting themselves