BREAKING: Bolton to Claim Trump Held Up Ukraine Military Aid Over Biden Investigations

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    You're the one that shows a complete ignorance of what the constitution requires for impeachment.

    The constitution says "high crimes and misdemeanors" and as of yet Trump has not been charged with any "high crimes and misdemeanors".

    And relying on politicians to tell me or anybody about timing is a ridiculous.
     
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    It is entirely relevant to proving that Ukraine knew about the freeze before the aid was released.

    Are you really incapable or unwilling to just say the date?
     
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    Lol you've never heard of politicians timing news releases?? How pitiful for you. Trump has been charged with high crimes but you don't know what that term means in the political and constitutional sense. Duh! So far you have stopped defending Trump because we both know there's tons of evidence that Trump violated the constitution and is guilty of blackmail. Once again when are you going to read my posts so we can have a real debate.

    . . Here is the post that you have been afraid to respond to: :

    In the readout as soon as Zelensky asked for the missile funding Trump immediately asked a favor of him. The favor included looking into crowd strike and the investigation of Biden. The fact that Zelensky had to ask for more missiles tells us he didn't have any and definitely needed them for his country to survive. So the missiles were held back. Trump used his power of office to defame and/or investigate an Americana rival candidate Joe Biden. Trump should be remove from office definitely ..I hope your not pushing the old garbage lie that Trump was looking into corruption in Ukraine because there are 100s of millions of dollars of corruption in Ukraine in various forms shapes and sizes.and Trump never asked about any of these. .So by now we should both agree that that line of defense for Trump's behavior is pure B.S.

    I think you know how assign that comment is. The readout of the call was more than a leak and it confirmed in a conversation that Ukraine was out of missiles after they were held back,That Zelensky was desperate to have more missiles and the first thing Trump did was to ask a favor of a country that was fighting a powerful Russian invasion. We both know that Trump could have asked our State Department and/ or our intelligence agencies to investigate Biden in years 2017 and 2018 but he didn't or if he did there was no announcement of Biden corruption. So Trump was concerned about Biden only when he was front runner in2019.
    David Holms, Gorden Soundland, Bill Taylor, Alexander Vindman who listened to the call Fiona Hill the NSC director who listen to the call stated that an exchange of Missiles for dirt on Joe Biden was Trump policy. Trump is guilty and now we can ad John Bolton the former head of the USC to the list of those who confirm that Trump was offering missiles for dirt on Biden or an announcement of an investigation into the Biden's. You can't use foreign policy or the power of the presidency as a tool to investigate a rival American presidential candidate in a foreign country
     
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    You are calling the statement from one of the two persons involved in those text messages "no proof"

    It's just dumb.
     
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    You must realize that I am referencing the fact that we can just put Bolton under oath.
     
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    Not to US Attorney Durham it isn’t off limits to. In fact Burisma, Biden, Ukraine, Russia, Clinton, UK, Comey, Italy, Brennan, China, Clapper, extortion, bribery, conspiracy, espionage and even Obama will be mentioned in numerous federal indictments handed out by Durham.
     
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    And twist his words too. Shifty’s been doing that since the Russian collusion hoax. But this time there will also be cross examination under oath.
     
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    Durham is not part of this Impeachment anything.House democrats
    have already made the point that " Burisma " is not part of this
    Impeachment.Which is total hypocrisy on it's face.Yet that is what
    The Democrats and the MSM are abiding.That No mention of Burisma will
    be tolerated.Kinda like the way that the Free Press and MSM also
    made it possible to not mention Trump's Historic Economy.
    Get my drift.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Ukraine didn't know.

    Ukraine admitted that they didn't know until after the call.

    Therefore no pressure and no QPQ.

    Get over it!
     
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    I did respond to this already.

    It's pure conjecture.
     
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    What statement?
     
  12. hawgsalot

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    The dems arguing Burisma isn't part of this impeachment is well dumb. It's the President's job and the law to fight corruption in Ukraine. If the Biden's participated in corruption in Ukraine and it most certainly appears they were neck deep in something nefarious, it's Trumps job to look into it for US, the United States of America. If you guys want to run on the Biden's can't be looked into because they are dems and the dems control the house then more power to you but it will get hammered home for you in the next election.
     
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    Says the people who haven't been right about anything for over 3 years.
     
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    They did it in the FISC too. It's under criminal investigation.
     
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    Did you read the transcript.
     
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    This is a factless statement. Not one of your posts prove any part of it is conjecture in the least. Lol just saying the word conjecture proves nothing. No real debate from you .And real ignorance about what High Crimes means.
     
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    I never stated that Durham was part of anything impeachment. And by the way, the Dems and the MSM are not in charge in the Senate. So, keep drifting.
     
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    Your analysis is pure conjecture.

    Not one of your posts prove anything.

    Lol just posting a timeline of events proves nothing. No real debate from you.
     
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    Time line of events in my post? Where is it prove it!?
     
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    According to breaking news from the WSJ, neither is Mitchy the Kid...

    McConnell Says GOP Doesn’t Have Votes to Block Impeachment Witnesses

    I don't generally post WSJ due to their tough-to-break firewall, but if you can, have at it..

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...i7qgxWaMeuy6P7&reflink=article_imessage_share
     
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    I'm not sure you understand what a direct quote is.

    You didnt post a quote and it certainly wasn't a direct quote given "sources" said it.
     
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    What steaming B..S. Trump could have had U.S intelligence agencies or the State Department look into the Biden's in 2017 or 2018 without out having to ask a completely corrupt Ukraine to look into them .There are 100s of millions of dollars of corruption in Ukraine but Trump was only obsessed with the Biden's. and only in 2019 when Biden suddenly appeared on the scene as a front runner.
     
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    I assume then you watched Fix News so called coverage. Witnesses were barely given much air time, just The Hannity version
     
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    Right now, still got days to go but hey I'm all for it. Get Bolton, Get Biden, Get Mulvaney, Get Schiff. Turn over the dirty leaves and then acquit no big deal.
     
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    And in the call he said get with Rudy and Barr, that's exactly what you say he should do. Trump couldn't do that until the Russian hoax was over, hell you guys would've really thrown a fit and Mules would've investigated til forever. Bottom line you want to look in his house well we get to look into Bidens as well. Sorry your boy isn't untouchable, that's life. If there are questions any President has a duty to look into BY LAW!
     
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