Trump to Propose $4.8 Trillion Budget With Big Safety-Net Cuts

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  1. NMNeil

    NMNeil Well-Known Member

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    Sarcasm was not the intent.
    It's amazing how many people claim to have a debilitating mental illness and have latched onto the welfare teat citing that illness, but at the same time refusing to relinquish their drivers license as required by law.
    A similar scenario is someone who claims abject poverty, and then lists a myriad of reasons why they can't (won't) work, but still has the very latest cell phone with an exorbitant monthly bill so they can ignore the real world and just rely on Farcebook and Twatter for all their stimuli.
    You fortunately do not appear to fall into that category.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    How about Fatso retaliating against a decorated soldier for telling the truth about his lying ass? How about Trump giving 85% of the tax cut to people making more than $400,000 per year after he promised he wouldn't when he was running for office? How about the Orange Oaf intervening in the sentencing of Weirdo Stone?
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Oh lord, he said he would have the debt paid off by the end of his first term. It's easy.

    That was an obvious lie but now you believe him again?
     
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  5. LangleyMan

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    Human nature.
     
  6. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wait there's a law about people with mental illness needing to give up their driver's license? This is the first time I've heard of it. Well, I hope that's not in effect in New York, I'm good to drive.

    As for phones, I bought a cheap one with a low priced pre-paid plan. I found that I didn't qualify for Obama phones, not because I was too poor, but because I only make like 5 calls a year and the welfare phone plans required you to use them extensively each month or be kicked off the program.
     
  7. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I guess Trump is just a good con-man.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, I guess not.
     
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    The decorated Officer cooked his own goose by abandoning the chain of command and giving conflicting testimony. As for Stone, Trump had been coming to his defense from the get go. His concern about sentencing is nothing new.
     
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    At least you admit you want other people's ****
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    It's consistent with what I've seen on the budget--rosy, unrealistic growth assumptions, spending increases less than inflation for many social programs, cuts to useful programs like public health, and on and on. It's designed to get rejected so Fatso can point the finger at Democrats and get people like you to blame them exclusively. The fact is that both parties are blameworthy.

    We need to speed up economic growth by increasing public and private spending on R&D, infrastructure, and job training.
     
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    He has not increased the national debt by 68%.
     
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    Oh, they're certainly not doing a good job of it, I'll give you that. But you give me this: at least they're trying. At least they WANT to throw money at the problem in a desperate attempt ti solve it.

    If their version of Heaven is real, I would much rather confess to incompetence than evil. Wouldn't you? I would say wanting to CUT services to the poor right after LOWERING taxes on the wealthiest is about as close to the opposite of the Bible's core message as you can get.
     
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    I wish I could give them credit for trying, but it is no secret that by the time the money goes through the mighty government, there is very little left for the poor. Good intentions are not enough. (Good intentions pave a road that leads to, somewhere!) Billions getting lost in the bureaucracy while people suffer doesn't even get them a participation trophy.

    Another sad point is that the food banks, shelters, and soup kitchens are run by the religious. The homeless people get free food, but have to hear preaching.
     
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    All of that is your biased spin
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    He didn't abandon the chain of command or give conflicting testimony. You made that up or heard from someone who made it up.
    He interfered with the process. If he wants to pardon that jerk, he should let the process play out and then wear the pardon. It's obvious Trump has little respect for the rule of law.
     
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    What did I say that isn't true?
     
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    I don't collect Social Security or use Medicare even though I'm over 70. I bet plenty I pay more in taxes than you do.
     
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    Let me guess, an internet rich guy who just loves to give his money away in the form of taxes.
    That's new
     
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    You made a bunch of accusations and didn't back any of them up..

    By the way, " you can keep your plan and you doctor"
    President Obama

    "We'll hear from the whistleblower soon"

    Adam Schiff

    "This is Solemn, Sober event"
    Nancy Pelosi as she smiles giggles and celebrates


    You wanna talk about lying. How about we talk about Democrats..
     
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    How can anyone project the budget all the way to 2035 and know that deficits will disappear by then? Another problem is that the interest on the national debt keeps rising. During the early Obama era, it was a bit over 200 billion every year. Now it is 450 billion. In a few years its going to reach 750 billion and head toward 1 trillion every year. Trump's budget does cut spending in some places, but increases them in others, and results in a trillion dollar deficit.
     
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    Trump only proposes the budget. The house of representatives writes the budget and therefore spends the money.

    The house, senate and the president all need to get heads out of their asses and deliver a balanced budget.

    I could be wrong but i think most of us agree. Therefore i think it should be the national priority. We can set aside our differences to accomplish that one thing.
     
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    Yes, Trump only proposes the budget. But that is what makes it so bad. The white house budget is mostly just a wish list, and real deficit reduction is not in this wish list at all. Trump's budget just transfers spending from social programs to the military. If I was writing up my budget wish list, I'd include deficit reduction.

    Our government isn't going to balance the budget because, Trump doesn't care, the Republicans don't care, and the democrat's don't care. The Republicans pretend to care when a democrat is president, but they show their true colors, when they take control. And the democrats of course don't even try to care. Both are just as bad for the deficit.
     
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    Neither party can get what they want from the budget process unless they have the Presidency, the House, and 60 votes in the Senate. What Trump/Republicans are doing is getting what they want in exchange for what the Democrats want. And in the process the budget is blown. But it is fundamental that the debt cannot be reduced without economic growth and that is what Trump is focused on.
     
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    The white house budget is not the budget process or an attempted compromise with democrats. It is a white house wish list. It is more of a political and party statement than an actual real-life budget. So if your priority is to cut the deficit, then I better see that in the white house budget. I better see Trump and Republicans in Congress make it a campaign issue and fight hard for it.

    I remember when Obama was president, Republicans voted to cancel Obamacare 50 times, and passed dozens of other wish-list bills, just to make a political statement. I remember when they couldn't stop talking about Obamacare and the debt even when they couldn't do anything about it. I remember when they shut down the government and made a huge fuss about the deficit when Clinton was president.
     

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