Why doesn't socialism work?

1) It was pre wage stagnation and massively increased cost of housing. Obviously.

2) We don't have your wealth because we're smaller. But we have exactly the same conditions - an ever increasing wealth divide driven by wage stagnation and housing inaffordability.

 

1995 was when NAFTA was passed and the Republicans refused to follow through with cheap education and training to prepare our workers for good jobs that globalism produces in modern countries like Germany France etcetera that don't have a grand old party to screw things up...

 

They're the same thing.

If by socialism you DON'T mean 'everyone works, basic resources for living in return', you're talking about capitalism - which for your own reasons you feel you can't admit to.

 

your country also doesn't have the fantastic natural resources that the United States has. Or the Republican party or GOP if you wish button making that that wrecks the world economy every time they get 8 years to do it. They are corrupt capitalist swine and their misinformed voters. 2008 was a world depression caused by the corrupt GOP again! It cost trillions of dollars to avoid a full-blown selling apples on the corner depression. It was the GOP corrupt oversight of real estate that caused the meltdown. They were also sold around the world so everybody got it on the fun.the usual swine capitalists in the UK and the United States were behind it. By the way what the hell is wrong with you so that you can't say what country you're from or you're in?

 

So callings are strictly jobs? I disagree.

 

Good. So you recognize that our economic competition with China is a serious issue.

The tech transfer isn't all pure theft. It includes requirements for making public technology related to products we build or sell there. Technically speaking, that isn't actual theft, and I wanted to include it all.

 

Your "discussion" was off the OP topic and beneath rrelavency to the subissues brought up.

 

politicians. Logically if there is a housing shortage a real estate developer would purchase land and build houses. The only reason they're not able to do that is it red tape. So bureaucracy in political nunsense makes it unaffordable, because this law of supply and demand is still in effect.

Then you are saying no more kids.

if you're saying people who can't afford them shouldn't have them and nobody can afford them, then yes you are indirectly saying no more kids.

 

Meaning what? Support precisely who, what, how, and when?

Are you suggesting we lead or pressure people into behaving as you suggest? How do we get from where we are to where you think they should

Don't get this one?

 

Reducing drug costs to Americans (like, down to what others pay) is a great idea.

The government does leave everything to the private sector when that direction works.

 

You use "we" and "us" frequently.

But, you don't even say where you are or what those terms mean to you.

It's pretty much impossible to respond when so little is known concerning what you're talking about.

 

$400B per year is pure theft. And why will US tech companies work on enabling censorship in China but refuse to work for the US military who are an opposition force to the Chinese totalitarianism, racism, and misogyny ???

 

I'm not an expert in prehistoric economy.

But, guessing that it must have been capitalist hits me as presumptive.

 

Cooperation with others is what reduces the chance for serious conflict. It can also be economically beneficial.

Cooperation is not a suicide pact. Far from it.

 

Everybody in the modern world outside the English-speaking countries knows they have socialism already. Socialism is always Democratic so that is what you get. It is a disgrace that you are against a living wage health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. You are hopelessly misinformed. The USSR supposedly had socialism back in 1917 but it became obvious there was no democracy in the Soviets or committees that were supposed to govern. That didn't happen it never will communism is dead and gone. Give it the f*** up. You know what a brainwash is. English speakers have been doing that for over a century. By the way Napoleon was slightly taller than average and he did not say the English were a nation of shopkeepers, he said they were a bunch of monopolists. LOL

"We are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed.

 

So far, we've decided to buy that amount of stuff. You can say we're buying too much stuff, but that's not very meaningful without specifying what it is that you don't want to buy.

I have no idea what you're talking about with "US tech companies" refusing to work with the US military.

Our DoD includes gigantic contracts to tech companies. And, stuff from that effort has made its way into our everyday lives - like the internet, communication technology like cell phones, GPS, policing equipment, etc., etc.

 

it's ridiculous trying to talk with you about your country when you won't say where the hell you live. Thatcher and Reagan ruined the economy in England and the United States. But I don't think the economy in France and Germany and Scandinavia are anywhere near as bad with inequality. Yes it is English-speaking conservatives who are the damn problem!! LOL every damn time. For three or four hundred years lol. Highly misinformed and imperialist voters.

 

Until Trump our leadership has been perfectly OK with the trade violations perpetrated by the Chinese.

Come'on man - get out of the CNN/MSNBC cesspool and learn what is going on in the world.

 

Fundamentally, Finland is a capitalist country.

Their government owns certain key sectors that they see as strategic or natural monopolies, like oil, but they have a thriving private sector and have been moving toward privitizing other stuff the government once owned.

The bottom line is that capitalism is outstanding, but doesn't do everything that needs to be done.

 

Capitalism provides the maximum gdp and tax revenues. The taxpayers decide what the tax revenues should be spent on. The Scandinavian countries spend on welfarism but they are cutting back on that every year.

 

We don't have de facto government control of business, not even in times of war.

 

That's jsut plain false.

The approach to China has to create larrge trade groups that have the economic power to affect China's trade policy.

Trump ditched that and tried havign a mano-a-mano tariff war. Tariff wars are really weak and have myriad consequences as we've found out. Plus it's made even weaker by abandoning joint action by numerous other countris that share this same problem.

Trump is a world wild card - NOT a world leader. And, it shows on issues such as this one.

 

They were all socialist countries. Italy under Mussolini was a Fascist country that mimicked Woodrow Wilson's progressivism. Fascism didn't adopt bigotry before the Nazis marched in, but they had another model in the bigotry displayed by Woody. Concentration camps were modeled after Democrat plantations --- people who would work but weren't allowed to vote. Democrats imposed Jim Crow laws to segregate blacks. The lynchings of blacks by Democrats that became common place were models for Hitler's gas chambers. Both were supposedly designed to clean up the gene pool --- what one might call white supremacy.

Nothing says White Supremacy like the monument to Stephen Douglas in Chicago.

The myth spun by big government Democrats was that small government conservatism transformed into big overbearing government fascism. That's laughable.

In the 1960's, LBJ, struggling for voters, created another form of slavery, blacks who could vote but not work. LBJ's slavery destroyed the black family and fomented resentment of LBJ's welfare cases by people who picked up the tab. Today, we understand that blacks were the victims of Democrat policies for centuries. We want everyone to be productive and successful and will fight Democrats to make that happen.

 

The only issue is how to solve problems that capitalism does not want to solve.

Sometimes we can force capitalists to widen what they care about - EPA, ACA, etc.

But, that isn't always enough.

 

EVERY country spends on "welfareism". And, pretty much every country respects capitalism - even China.

I don't see that you are making any point here.