Why doesn't socialism work?

We have a social safety net with government run healthcare insurance. It’s terrible.

 

I'm not reading through articles. You presented nothing.

If your links contain facts (they don't)

False.

Prove it.

Links aren't facts.

If you don't than dismiss.

You didn't give me any sources you have me links. They could be to opinion blogs. I don't know it isn't my burden to prove your links factual. It is yours.

So you can't prove your claim.

Hence why you refuse to post facts. You can't because you are wrong.

Thanks for ruining away for days instead of proving your claims. But I already knew they were false.

 

Every other modern Rich democracy manages it for crying out loud.... Is Canada communist or are you totally misinformed?

 

It's a hell of a lot better than what was going on before, the GOP scam system. It is a basic framework to be added onto like Uncle Joe says. A public option should put insurers out of business in no time.... You are totally misinformed.

 

Changing your tune, huh? First the NEA doesn’t agree with me. Now that you finally see it in print they do agree with me they aren’t reliable.

And you completely ignore the other links written by physicians and peer reviewed. And based on multiple sources of research. Oh well.

So at it’s core, we have an administrative problem? How do you deal with that?

Interesting reading for sure. Your sources do show we aren’t declining precipitously compared to other countries on average. I did notice 3 of the countries ahead of us did decline noticeably so that would help us look better for our lack of progress. I also found it interesting how your sources brought out the fact the poorer performing demographics are declining and the upper achievers are the ones holding the line, resulting in greater and greater gaps between performance of the underprivileged and others. Also, your links brought out the fact spending is not increasing performance here in the US or in other countries trying that approach.

I’m not real knowledgeable about the difference between the NAEP testing and that of PISA, but PISA does make us look better. NAEP data is less flattering.

Do you have any insights on the discrepancy?

 

Blocked and obstructed by the GOP every chance they get.... Without misinformation you'd have nothing.

 

Medicaid has been around for decades.

Public option kills people.

 

Medicaid has been in place for decades. The Ryan - Price plan would transfer federal Medicaid funding directly to the states where they could implement plans which make sense for the respective states.

 

Yes but Medicaid you had to be unemployed to make it so little money to qualify. So people went on welfare to get Medicaid that's brilliant GOP thinking. Now you have to make less than 130% of the poverty line. Except in scumbag red states of course... You don't know what the public option is any more than I do exactly...

 

1) the US is not a democracy - we are a republic.

2) the reason the US became #1 at pretty much everything is b/c we are a republic and not a democracy, and we have a Constitution that was designed to prevent all of the very things you leftists incessantly clamor for.

3) the systems those of you on the left want come with greater costs than the simple outlay/people covered narratives you cite. Most notably the loss of freedom, the huge tax burden, and the accompanying economic stagnation and lack of innovation.

4) the biggest problems the US has in its healthcare system are all government created. Excessive bureaucracy, laws that benefit insurers and lawyers at the expense of the consumer, employer based insurance, etc, etc.

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No, those of us who value liberty can get along just fine without your authoritarian designs.

 

Bologna. Utrust proven liars.

 

so is it having healthcare or living wage or cheap college that will destroy your freedom. You are absolutely misinformed. Everything Bernie wants they already have in Canada France Australia Japan you name it. Wake up you are totally misinformed by the greedy idiot GOP rich.... so if Trump is re-elected how do you think he will destroy the world economy like the GOP always does when they get the chance and eight years....

 

Socialism doesn't work because the only way to make something "free" is to eliminate its scarcity.

 

One. A republic is defined as a representational democracy. I have a masters in history and I have no idea what you people mean LOL.
Two. The reason the United States is number one is because of our amazing natural resources and geographical advantages. Like the Atlantic ocean 4 defense. The English are so proud of themselves too behind their channel. The other Savage capitalists
3. Total b*******. they'd be just fine if the GOP didn't wreck the world economy every time they get eight years in office.
Four. total horse's patoot. The problem is the costs after being a GOP no regulation scam where is big health big pharma big Madison big doctors. What a scam. My father was a doctor who wanted socialized medicine since 1940. This is pure crap. We need the government to go after transparency and costs of all levels of health Care.

 

Nobody wants communism we're talkin about socialism which Bernie has to call Democratic socialism but wake up and smell the coffee. We are all socialists now!--- the president of Finland when ObamaCare passed....

 

You have to be unemployed to make money ??

 

You don’t like RomneyCare ??? Federal Medicaid money paid for it.

 

Wrong. Nazi Germany did not collectivize production.

I would have been socialism if Hitler had taken over business. He didn't.

I don't suppose it bothers you that people who know what happened in Germany are shaking their heads over you insisting you're right.

 

Denmark. Does this sound like government control the means of production?

"This thoroughly modern market economy features advanced industry with world-leading firms in pharmaceuticals, maritime shipping, and renewable energy, and a high-tech agricultural sector. Danes enjoy a high standard of living, and the Danish economy is characterized by extensive government welfare measures and an equitable distribution of income. An aging population will be a long-term issue.

Denmark’s small open economy is highly dependent on foreign trade, and the government strongly supports trade liberalization. Denmark is a net exporter of food, oil, and gas and enjoys a comfortable balance of payments surplus, but depends on imports of raw materials for the manufacturing sector."

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/da.html​

Why is it so difficult for you to understand government is not controlling production?

 

Nazi Germany controlled production.

Nazi Germany controlled businesses.

Germans know that Nazi Germany was a far left single party totalitarian dictatorship which controlled businesses and production.

 

Denmark has an economy based on capitalism. Denmark has a large welfare system paid for by heavy taxation of the low and middle income quintiles.

The government of Denmark does not control production.

 

Wrong again!

I PROVED using YOUR own words that you ACKNOWLEDGED the VERACITY of my original statement!

 

You failed to provide any "facts" that needed refuting.

Get back to us when you have CREDIBLE facts.

 

NOWHERE have I claimed that it did!

That it YOUR misunderstanding, NOT mine!

Wrong again! Corporate Credit Cards are issued based upon the Credit Rating of the corporation which usually means that it generates millions of dollars in revenue each year. Corporate credit cards are paid directly by the corporation itself. BUSINESS Credit Cards are issued to INDIVIDUALS and they are directly liable for the debt and then obtain reimbursement from their employer. A bank can and will refuse to issue a Business Credit Card to an individual with an unacceptable credit rating.

That is an ABSURD FALSEHOOD since I NEVER made any such statement!

Collateral refers to ASSETS, not capital!

Obviously you don't have the relevant subject matter knowledge to engage in a discussion regarding Commercial Loans and Lending and have therefore disqualified yourself from any further meaningful interaction on this topic as far as I am concerned.

Have a nice day!

 

They're the teachers' union, fer crissake.

Not sure I agree with some of the above, but PISA does show we're a weak performer who isn't getting worse relative to other countries.

One is comparing us to other countries, the other our states to each other.