HHS estimates coronavirus mortality rate at 0.1%-1%

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Apparently you missed Trumps news conference. It was factual and informative and told us what’s been going on behind the scenes the last couple of weeks. It was very inspiring and had a calming effect as witnessed by the Dow that went up nearly two thousand points as Trump and crew spoke.
     
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    You seem pretty hung up on "news", which is nothing more than biased opinions based on current events. Democrats have their "news" at CNN/MSNBC. Republicans have their "news" at FOX. It's not "news". It's partisan feel-good entertainment. I don't watch much of it.
     
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    Governors are taking advice from the CDC and DHHS.
     
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    I have always agreed that the global response team in the CDC exists. But, have NOT been working on the problem of pandemic in America.

    AGAIN, the CDC pandemic response team focuses on the global problem.

    They weren't creating a plan for rapid response to pandemic in America.

    How many times do I have to point that out? I even pointed out obvious specific elements the CDC pandemic response team does NOT do that are central to a US response.
     
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    This is total deflection.

    CNN/MSNVC/ABC/Reuters/BBC/NYT/Washington Post and myriad others have been exactly right on this issue.

    Fox has whole programs that were telling blatant political lies to support their partisan message - counterin US medical experts who were trying to get an important message to Americans.

    And, Rusbo??? There is nothing even remotely like his abject lies and BS - outside of Breitbart and a few I'm sure you would agree are beyond all reason for discussion.
     
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    He also stated several blatant lies.

    And, his "leadership" was on parade when he said what WE should do and then said he wouldn't do it.
     
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    Okay, you believe your media is right on and that Republican media is full of lies. Republicans think that Fox is right on and that leftwing media is full of lies. Got it.

    I think that media is very biased and divisive these days.
     
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    What lies? And he said he’d get tested. Obviously you didn’t watch the news conference.
     
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    Next he'll be ridiculed as a hypocrite because the guidance is that only people with symptoms or those who have contact with known carriers get tested. Geez, that guy just can't do anything right!
     
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    That's somewhat true.

    Listening to Trump has been a total disaster from the start and continuing through today.

    Has he told some truth? Sure. But everything he says needs to be checked out with someone who knows what's happening. Obama's fault?? CDC web site?? Trump is blameless?? Tests are now availabe?? COVID will go down due to warmer weather?? No travel from the EU except UK?? The list goes on and on.
     
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    Under direct pressure he changed his tune.

    You don't have to tell me that he flip flops.
     
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    NO. I pointed to cases where Fox programming was still pitching COVID as a Democratic assault on Trump's presidential campaign - in one case calling it an attempt to impeach the president.

    RushBo has said the same.

    Do you think there is ANY question about that? Do you think there is ANYTHING even slightly similar coming from the left??

    Assaults on our pandemic response is an attack on America by making our approach a political issue, not a science issue. This is the same thing that is happening with climate change. It's to the point today that the science makes no difference to the right wing. So, they argue it purely as partisan political BS, rather than looking for sources of truth.
     
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    No they were working overseas before it came to the USA, Which was the point of the Obama White House PR team formed after the Ebola failure...the larger CDC works on it when ir or any illness is in the United States
     
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    ???

    This is exactly what is happening today. How could anyone complain about using this seriously scarce resource only in cases where it's important?
     
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    The US response to Ebola was a major success.

    And, your comments about CDC working on a US plan is totally unsupportable.

    If they had been doing that, we would have had a plan. And, we absolutely did NOT. The CDC didn't even know what their legal powers were and they had nothing to say concerning most issues when called by our governor at the outset.

    Come one. If there was a plan, why would it have been so carefully hidden?? If the CDC had a plan, why would Trump not have pointed to it?
     
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    What? It ranged for three years and killed thousands!

    Of course the CDC has a plan, it’s what the CDC does! What do you think the point of the organization is? It’s been on this since it broke In China.

    Seriously, at this point you can’t be taken seriously anymore
     
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    There were 11 cases of Ebola in the US, including those brought here by the CDC.

    You're still failing to see what a pandemic plan would even look like.

    It would NOT be limited to addressing the virus itself. ANY progress on vaccines or specific treatments can't be available for a good number of months - more like this coming fall.

    An emergency pandemic plan has to address everything we do before that. And, the CDC didn't even realize that they had the legal power to expedite testing, nor did they have a plan for the most efficient way of providing testing, nor did they have plans relating to travel, social distancing, isolation, medical supplies, or any of the other issues that ANY emergency pandemic plan would address. They had no planning communication done with the states - as other emergency planning groups have today.

    They had no reccommendation concerning how much the elements of such a plan would cost.

    There was no plan. And, the reason is that Trump fired them.
     
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    The state of emergency just gave the state the power to do anything is wants to do to you, but there's no panic?

    Patrick Henry is crying
     
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    What more do you need to know?
    It's a bad cold virus that causes significant problems for the weak and infirmed.
     
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    It’s what the cdc does, and has done since it was formed. The Obama admin did a horrible job with the Ebola virus,
     
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    He got tested because a reporter asked him if he was being selfish by refusing to get tested.
     
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    How do you rate trumps handling of the Ebola crisis?
     
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    You legitimately are unaware that trump lied - repeatedly about the virus?
     
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    :lol: as usual this is your version and your version reflects Trump in the worst way possible. Obviously he didn't have to be tested, but since you insisted we now have one less test kit for someone who probably needed it a lot more
     
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    Well it takes 14 days for this to kill you, so if you are dividing total cases by total deaths while new cases are rapidly accelerating, you are getting a rosier picture than the one you see if you look at Concluded Cases, that is, cases with an outcome, either death or recovery.

    Out of the 81,776 cases with an outcome, we have 5,839 deaths and 75,937 recoveries. So less than 8% fatal, or, about 13 times more likely to recover than die.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
     

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